Trump sends the wrong message on New Zealand. World leaders must denounce the attack.

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Such is the TDS narrative of a fascist Trump yet the opposition to Trump would require fascism to implement their agenda.
     
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    We need to denounce mass murder?
    WTF?
     
  3. Tim15856

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    When people on the Right complained about the vile insults made of Sarah Sanders the Left replied, they are just words and can't physically hurt anyone. This coming from the same people who think what they consider is hate speech is just as bad as physical rape.
     
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    Sorry but he did by hijacking that press conference into a rant about illegal immigration and guess what was the shooters motivation
     
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    Boo hoo, we all feel bad for New Zealand, but life goes on.
     
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    Nothing like a little hyperbole for fun and games.
     
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    Do killers really need denounced?
    Get serious.
     
  8. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Ooooh, the old manhood appeal.
    Digging deep today I see.
     
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    Maybe I'm an outlier, but I am a student of history, and this guy only killed 49 people (so far) and another 48 or so are in the hospital. As somebody who predicted that there's going to be a war between the left and right, this is slightly below average for your typical war scenario of an opening bombardment by a lone gunner.

    WW1 was started by a group of Serbian terrorists who killed the arch-duke and his wife. The eventual war toll for all of WW1 was around 40 million.

    You are correct in saying that it is nothing about guns. It's much much deeper than that. This particular situation is one lone gunner saying "to hell with this!" and deciding to do something about it. I'm sorry, but I just can't find much to fault him with. Leftists were told that they can't keep the borders open and continue to welcome people into the country who fundamentally disagree with our culture.

    Should I condemn him for killing muslims? As a student of history, that would require me condemning the crusades, which were nothing but a response to islamic encroachment upon christian lands. You might as well tell me I need to condemn the British for fighting against Nazis.
     
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    Bush's imperialistic terrorism which has resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocents and those actions we see on a daily basis are far worse.
     
  11. Surfer Joe

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    Indeed. Look at the massive brain fart suffered by the right when told that the US had elected a black man as potus. They could simply not process the fact that suddenly they were lower than a black person in the natural pecking order.
     
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    Yeah because they all lived their entire lives without having a teacher or a coach or a boss who was black. Seriously dude?
     
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    LMAO... That's your retort? Seriously dude?
     
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    To an inane statement such as all these white people were upset because they were all of a sudden subservient to a black guy? Yeah that's my retort
     
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    Pat's on head
     
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    He is a ****ing leftist. That's reason enough to fault him. He murdered people whose antecedents go back hundreds of years in the place and who hadn't done a damn thing to him or anyone else.
     
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    I can't remember a single time that leftists didn't condemn attacks by Muslim extremists.....I can think of numerous times just in the few years where the right not only refused to condemn Christian terrorism, but actually tried to defend it.
     
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    This is just like what he did in Charlotteville.....refuse to denounce those who is base would support....

    A good percentage of his base are alt righters who hate Muslims. Trump refuses to denounce one of their own.

    Just like he refused to call the attack at Charlottesville an act of terror, because it would have pissed off the nazis in his base.
     
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    I listened to what he said to the prime minister. He offered whatever support they needed. They did not need to be told how evil the terrorists were. They already knew that.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause: YUP, Trump has done all he can to “incite violence, retaliation and further divide""...
     
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    Most of that violence is blacks killing blacks in Chicago, Little Rock, etc. Areas I would not visit. Don't see how that translates to right wing violence.
     
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    If you're really that interested, perhaps you could look deeply into how your thoughts and conclusions regarding the President are influenced and developed.

    Are they independent, or are they manipulated and directed?

    For example, the Nation has witness riots, attacks, stalking, etc., by supporters of the left. We've watched people chased out of restaurants, people threatened in their own homes. Are these tactics conservatives have followed? I haven't seen any. So when the President say's the right isn't agreesive, isn't tough, it's true.

    I think the President speaks very much like a leader. I think his rivals speak something other than "American", if you get my drift.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    YUP, Trump has done all he can to “incite violence, retaliation and further divide”""..


    Where TF did I post it "translates to right wing violence" ?

    BIG HINT: I didn't.

    And you did NOT refute one word of my actual post you quoted.
     
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    BIG HINT. The most violence you can find in America is in the larger cities and that does not have thing to do with Trump. They are generally democratic controlled cities. I don't hear the democrats talking about stopping that violence.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Where TF did I post it "translates to right wing violence" ?

    BIG HINT: I didn't.

    And you did NOT refute one word of my actual post you quoted."""""



    Maybe you try reading a post before responding...….if you just want to give a speech, don't quote my posts...
     

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