Trump to end Obamacare subsidies that help low-income Americans

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  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    No doubt! The problem with the ACA is it wasn't designed to address everyone on equal terms! It clearly rewards the entitlement class while stripping the productive class of wealth.. It was a very poorly constructed law and should have never have been sold on solvency and reduced cost and most of all been beneficial to all Americans, working and non-working alike!
     
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    So, according to your sources and complete analysis of all the consequences of this executive order, what are those consequences going to be?
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Paying 20% more on top of that will help them?
     
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    gc17 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Amen. It was designed to fail, and it has.
     
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    gc17 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    20% rather than another 100% I'd say yeah.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Except that's a made up choice lol
     
  7. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Clearly. It tells me that more Americans agree with me.

    Let it stand: 18% vs Change it so it does more: 42%

    Change it so it does less: 6% vs Repeal it completely: 28%
     
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    It's a good thing Congress voted for ObamaCare, isn't it? Except of course not in the alt-reality folks where Donnie's cult resides.
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    If you oppose corporatism, and wish to deny the expensive, superfluous middle man profiteers their parasitic feeding frenzy, that's fine.

    What will be amusing is watching middle class premiums rise under the new Trump®Care and watch the GOP jamokes in Congress be able to plead, "Hey! We didn't do it!"
     
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    Our Conservative "side" had nothing whatever to do with the inception, organization, or implementation of Obamacare. It was designed by Jonathan Gruber and the socialist-lite, Democrat crudballs to be a "mandate", passed as such by the Demoocrat Congress, signed by Obama, illegally re-written by SCOTUS Chief Justice, John Roberts, to be a "tax", and, for all these years since, it has turned into a completely fouled-up, mismanaged, death-spiralling MESS. But now that Obamacare's an ever-more expensive, steaming pile of unworkable sh*t, the hyperliberals are screaming that it's all Trump's fault? The Left's big "subsidy" welfare handout blows up in its face, and you call it Trump's fault...?! :lol:

    "Basic concepts"...? The "basic concepts" for how we do things in the Federal Government of the United States is found in The Constitution of the United States and its Amendments. If you and your "side" have suddenly discovered a brand-new interest in how we are SUPPOSED to do things in this country, read these documents: https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution

    I should add that while I dislike the whole idea of any President of the United States side-stepping Congress by running this nation through 'Executive Proclamations', 'Executive Decrees, 'Executive Actions', and with "a pen and a phone" (your wonderous President Messiah practiced this extensively throughout his Second Term in office), it must be remembered that it was your "side" who put all these new 'tools' in the government's 'tool chest'!

    Isn't it accurate to point out that you on the radical Left are only raising hell about it now because it's not someone from your "side" who's in the Oval Office...? The only thing that's "STUNNING to watch" is the sour shock and dismay on your faces when you confront the fact that "what goes around, comes around...."

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    Change to so it doe's more, more what? More cost, less cost, more free stuff, less free stuff, what?
     
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    There is a reason larger and larger percentages of our population are not self sustaining, depending on everybody else for food, health, education, shelter.

    Progressive policies LOVE government subsidizing for low income, not because they give a rat about low income but rather for social justice to redistribute wealth.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Trump's having blatantly lied about his enacting "something terrific!" that "covers everybody!" at "less cost!" is not the major concern. He lies continually.

    What is far more consequential is that he could be screwing the middle class and bloating the deficit unless he or Congress undo what he has done.

    If Trump®Care endures, his support will plummet even lower than it has been.

     
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    Low income americans don't need subsidies, they need employment.
     
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    There wouldn't be expensive middle men if everyone bought "insurance" and not care plans
     
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    It is wealth transfer, pure and simple
     
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    They should get their **** together or else auto purge the gene pool
     
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    They need to figure out how to acquire skills that someone is willing to pay for
     
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    At this point in time they are completely unknown so the lefties projection to the absolute worst case scenario will go challenged until proven otherwise.
     
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    Trump has addressed that with his "apprenticeship" program where you get the training and the job at the same time.
     
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    I typically think of ObamaCare as a disease.

    Letting a disease stand sounds defeatist. 18% are in this camp.

    Changing a disease so it does more sounds criminal, if not insane; yet a whopping 42% prefer this option.

    Changing a disease so it does less sounds like a modest improvement; yet only 6% prefer this option.

    Repealing a disease completely sounds like the only logical answer; yet only 28% are able to come to this same conclusion.​
     
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    But don't want to pay for their skills. I acquired my own
     
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    ESPECIALLY Reality!
     
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    No they are not. This has already been ajudicated. I don't care what Huckabee's daughter tells you.
     
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    I've got no problem with a program that teaches skills as a form of welfare.

    Some kids have parents that can't pay, or don't even have parents.

    Teaching skills as a form of welfare is far superior to handing them money for the rest of their lives.

    It will also teach them responsibility.

    For those who want to try and abuse the system or don't comply with the requirements, I've got no problems kicking them to the curb.

    There are poor people out there that do deserve a shot at success though.
     
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