Trump under investigation for potential violations of Espionage Act, warrant reveals

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  1. yardmeat

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    I remember when the Tea Party people were mailing tea bags to Obama. It made me think of starting a campaign to have people mail pacifiers to Trump. I think it would have been successful, but it would have been really wasteful, so I passed.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    The Dems don't have a crooked party leader whose name rhymes so easily with Humpty Dumpty, though.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Broad, but not absolute. The exception are documents pertaining to nuclear weapons, unless he has the requisite training, which I sincerely doubt he has, given that it is well known he doesn't even read briefing documents, which was my original point.

    https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/hss/Classification/docs/CTI-Training-RD-FRD-Briefing.pdf

    Clearly, Trump is a threat to national security and should be declared unfit for any public office.

    Also, in your link, it so states:

    "There’s no question that the president has broad authority to declassify almost anything at any time without any process, but that’s not what happened here," said Stephen I. Vladeck, professor at the University of Texas School of Law. "He did not, in fact, declassify the information he shared with the Russians, which is why the Washington Post did not publish that information."
     
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    LOL, no. GOP will win the House, by 6 or 8 seats, but not the Senate. You have Walker who is running a very piss poor campaign and Georgia voters are having serious second thonghts on him. Dems will flop Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. GOP will flip Arizona and possibly one other.

    As for Trump, this is not about 2022. This is about 2024, which now puts his candidacy in serious jeopardy. Furthermore, the irony in all this is that the GOP increased the penalties for these crimes during his presidency and now it appears he may have to reap what he sows.
     
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    Generally true if the documents are either automatic or exceptional that have not passed the time frame under EO 13526.

    The problem is you have to file a request or issue an EO for exempted documents, those documents with high-security clearances, and only the issuing agency is the authorized person who will decide whether they should be declassified or not. In other words the document will be declassified but may have redactions in them. It is not as simple as "if he says it then it must happen sort of thing."
     
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    The POTUS is the head of the Executive branch. What are you talking about?
     
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    He might be feeling a bit cornered now........and that cold make him even more erratic, impulsive and over reactionary than he normally is.

    The thing in all this that is totally disgusting is how his supporter are actively making threats against the FBI.........Totally irrational. This kind of conduct is embarrassing to the country. But fanatics don't care about the country and bigger picture............just their cult hero. One can say that his supporters have been caught up in his psychopathology.
     
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    They went from back the blue to wanting to defund lol
     
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    Fickle , aren't thy?? ;-)

    Maybe its the catnip they are on;-)
     
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    When the left wanted to defund it was because they were shooting people, republicans just don’t want their team investigated, ever, for anything.
     
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    It seems to be their collective attitude of exceptionalism.
     
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    The same people who spent 5 years screaming to anyone who would listen, “lock her up”, because Clinton may have classified information on her server(there was never any proof their was), are now claiming law enforcement is overreaching and has no rigth to even ask Trump if he has any classified data.
     
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    No nip. Just Trump's orange-speckled magic mushroom.
     
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    Hypocrisy at its best
     
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    None of the Violations being investigated Depend on the classification of documents. The espionage act was enacted 30 years prior to the classification system it's wholly independent
     
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    None of the violations Being investigated are dependent on classification especially the espionage act which was enacted 30 years Prior to the classification System and thus it's wholly independent
     
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    In other words, the FBI is an arm of the Democrat Party and are turning America into a police state. Defund the police.

    This proves beyond all doubt that the Democrats don't think they have a chance against Trump in an election. I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump killed in the next two years. I have no doubt that they will attempt to kill him if they can't get him via lawfare.
     
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    Garland just burned trump's ace in the hole.
     
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    In other words, you support treason.
     
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    Is that what English translates to in Trumpish ?

    You people are totally convinced of Dirty Donnie’s innocence here ?
    Not even a tiny possibility that he’s a low life traitor?
     
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    Another guarantee that Drumpf is finished this time?
     
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    Yes, after two impeachment tries based on lies from Democrats.
     
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    I support mandatory mental health evaluations for those suffering from TDS. It appears to be a terminal malady that has infected the deep state.
     
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    In other words, you support a traitor.

    Oh yes, read a book sometime.
     
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    Their TDS is stealing the thunder from DeSantis and their gayish boy figure Newsom.
     
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