Trump's crusade to reopen schools and universities in the fall is already backfiring on him

true. some kids are. it appears the older you are the more at risk you are from the virus. Likewise the younger you are, according to the experts, the higher risk you are from lack of schooling.

i really hope this works out for your son. As you highlighted on line classes won’t be much help to him

 

odd i know our local jail had a positive case and the entire jail didn’t get it.

i have to imagine schools have a lot more freedom to act if a positive case comes out

 

He and Betsy can beg that schools open, but they cannot make the students show up....

Full disclosure that we have voted for the Hybrid plan in our county, which is 2 days in/3 days out (as of now), with the option to bail to full online if all his classes are offered online and he feels it's not as safe as it should be OR there is an outbreak.

 

And this statement is just like all the others that come off of FOX News. Lame at best, Cherry picked, and only so because of kids removed from the schools. Trump has made 100s of the same type of statements. All are OK at the time and always based off of fictitious data... Data that has not been accumulated YET. Always Garbage....and childish...

It would be like saying... Nowhere else has had 200,000 deaths from the virus... Why would we ?

 

That sounds like a good plan

 

Then your suggestion is that we lock the kids in cells, then teach them ?
In what Jail do prisoners sit 3 feet away from each other in groups of 30 ?
Then every hour 6 times a day go to their locker walking the hallways, bumping into other kids ?
Or do you suppose that 5th graders are gonna all of a sudden act mature, wear masks, and social distance. ?

 

Honestly we shouldnt even be in this position. That is why i cannot understand how anyone supports Trump, especially NOW. The only way is if they isolate themselves and ONLY watch FOX news. They are willing to support his lies and tyranny.
We had 60k new cases in a day when all of Europe had no more than 5k.

He did this too himself and keeps doing dumb things

 

Trump wants children back in school so parents can go back to work. (If they are not already working from home or STILL HAVE a job.)
Thus Trump thinks he can restart the economy but at the risk of exposing children to the Corona virus.
Insidious.

Trump never cared about defeating the virus because he is not in the business of saving lives.
Only votes.

Oh, and it is Trump who loves the poorly educated.

 

not at all...there is much more freedom at a school. nobody has suggest we don’t take safety steps in opening schools social distance etc.

typical though...you act like things are binary...all the way or not at all..that’s why leftist make such horrible leaders

 

I don't get why you think that having such a narrow view of argumentative structure makes any sense. I noticed that you refused to answer this the last time, but I am going to illustrate my point again with an analogy.

Suppose someone comes up to you and asks, "Are you a moron or what?" Do you simply think, "Oh, this man is not suggesting I am a moron because he asked me a question?"

Similarly, you are very much making an argument by "pondering (inventing) the logic of liberals" and by "stating a fact." Those are literally the three components of every argument - evidence, assumptions, and conclusions.

 

All the prisoners are in one cell?

 

The reason to keep schools closed is because it is extremely dangerous to open them during a pandemic. That is unavoidable. And the rationale that you invented just bounces immediately back on you because it means that "most on the right want schools to open because that means parents can go back to work instead of staying home with their child and improve the economy right before the election time."

The US is one of the only western countries to see their virus infection rates fail to ever drop low before spiking upwards.

But if you have studies on children being unlikely to catch and spread COVID, then prove it. I have not seen those studies. Dr. Birx was asked about that information and said that they really do not know.

But even if children are unlikely to suffer severe harm from the virus (and that is true), their parents and grandparents and the teachers very much are much more likely to suffer severe harm from the virus. And opening the schools means that population is much more likely to be exposed to the virus.

 

yes trump does love the poorly educated as well as other demographics he mentioned in the full clip.

yes and trump also wants parents back to work.

and yes, he agrees with the experts and thinks children need to be back and school...no school will be doing more long term harm...and the young are at low risk to be harmed from the virus...of course this is what all the experts are saying...

dems obviously don’t think educating are children is essential and somehow think a teacher is more valuable then a grocery store clerk, nurse or doctor who have been going to work during all this sad really...my guess is keeping people uneducated is their goal...and of course they have been bought by the teacher’s union to push this message as well.

 

You are most definitely not quoting the experts here.

The child health experts that you want to selectively quote will all say, without question, that the end goal is to get children into classrooms because that is where they do better. But the end goal can not happen successfully when the virus is still raging in a given area.

 

usually two to three are, and then many share one small common area

fyi not all students are in one classroom either

when people tested hot they separated them...but they remained in the complex.

if a student tested hot or teacher et al, they could remain at home...even safer

 

sure where is raging in a given area. but not every locality is like NYC, LA or Miami.

trump is pushing, what the experts are open the schools safely. He has not once said just open up all the schools normally.

unfortuately leftist want to ignore the experts and continue to keep all the schools closed. tragic

 

A) I do not think it is possible to claim that more children died from the common flu.
B) The primary concern is not whether a significant percentage of the children will die. It is the concern that those children will spread the infection to vulnerable populations and that a significant percentage of those people will die.

 

Trump has not said anything about how to open schools safely and when his administration tried to release guidelines for how to do such, he immediately trashed them as too strict.

 

as i said before it greatly depends on the tone of a question...where it could be a suggestion...but neither is an argument.

no i was not making an argument at all above i stated a fact about experts...-and pondered out loud why libs would think education wasn’t essential...

 

Literally a statement of a fact and a pondering of an assumption are the explicit components of an argument.

Although to be fair, it is a **** argument because you had to resort to creating a strawman given that you can't quote a single person claiming that education is non-essential.

 

Unfortunately, while this spring showed us that we have the technology to achieve mass at-home schooling, it didn't exactly work out well for the kids on the ground actually doing it.

Part of that I'm sure is because the situation came out of nowhere and educators didn't have time to prepare for a sudden full shift from in-person classes to distance learning.

But kids didn't adapt easily either, and these are children of the information age.

Perhaps things will be better if we have to do it again in the future. The kids and the schools will have had some experience with it and it might go more smoothly. But as of now, I don't think we're in a position where we can say we can replace brick and morter in-person schooling with online learning.

 

The only thing I noticed from that response is how you don't object to Trump loving the poorly educated...

Which also makes Trumps claim that he wants children back in school for education-purposes a blatant lie.

I guess you don't mind a President taking his votes from an illiterate nation.

 

This virus is getting out of hand again, because some states refused to accept the leading medical advice and now Trump wants to force non social distancing. His ineptness once again in full display.

 

Unless one is taking some specialty course, school books, certainly gramar and high school books do not cost over $1k.

 

No doubt the warden of your jail can inform the rest of the world's medical practitioners how to mangage the virus