Update on Ron Paul's demographic conquest of the GOP

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  1. AbsoluteVoluntarist

    AbsoluteVoluntarist New Member

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    But I'd still rather vote for a rock than Romney or Gingrich :rolleyes: So obviously, I'm happy that more and more young "naive" people are refusing to support bloodthirsty monsters like them.
     
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    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Yea, and after we grow up, we can join the rest of the mindless pawns and simpletons who drool over Obama and his pretty speeches instead of demanding actual results and adherence to principle. Can't wait to become a drone, er, I mean "adult"...
     
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    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    The country is crumbling, but at least you tried, right? You win some, you lose some...

    My, what an incredibly lame excuse for failure.

    Funny how the ones who messed things up still consider themselves the smart ones.
     
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    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Ron Paul has accomplished a great deal since he's been in Congress. The fact that you and many others expend hours talking about him is evidence of that.

    More importantly, I like what Ron Paul doesn't do, which is how a real "conservative" and "Consitutionalist" views government. What the government doesn't do is just as crucially important as what it does do, and Ron Paul does NOT vote to raise taxes, circumvent the Constituion, or infringe my individual liberty. In fact, that's exactly what I expect from my ideal politician, to act as defender of liberty and natural law, and in that regard, Ron Paul has accomplished much.
     
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    And as the rest of the Paulobots will do, YOU will vote for obama. Neither Paul or Gingrich will be on the presidential ballot. Romney and b.o. will be. Sice you won't vote for Romney, that means you will vote for b.o.

    And that is a completely schizoid position.
     
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    Ron Paul is the greatest "Doesn't Doer" of all time!

    Ron Paul has accomplished so much? Other than claiming to have voted against bad bills AS EVERY POLITICIAN CLAIMS AND CAN STATISTICALLY PROVE, what has Paul done but sponsor the same defeated bills over and over? Why do Paulobots spend hours and hours making believe that Paul has any meaning, and is a factor. He is neither. Any rational look at the numbers proves that.
     
  7. AbsoluteVoluntarist

    AbsoluteVoluntarist New Member

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    Yeah, right. I'd sooner chop my hand off.

    What's schizoid is thinking I'd vote for either one of those people.
     
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    MANY of your fellow Paulobots have expressly stated that if Paul is not the Nominee, they will vote for obama.

    And a NON VOTE equals a vote for obama. You may not like Romney, he doesn't excite me either. But I'm certain he'll be a better president than b.o..

    See if Paulobots make-believe dreams came true and Paul was the Nominee. I'd vote for him. Paul's failure is in doing nothing, b.o.'s failure is in doing the wrong thing. Therefore Paul would be the better choice. Clark Kent and Captain America are NOT available. We have to choose from the actual AVAILABLE candidates. That will be Romney and b.o. You may HATE that that is your choices. I too hate voting for the lesser evil, but its better than allowing the greater evil to remain in POWER!
     
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    AbsoluteVoluntarist New Member

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    Who cares? Do they speak for me? What difference does it make? Romney wouldn't likely kill any fewer children.

    Not unless I would vote for Romney otherwise, which I wouldn't. I'd never vote for Romney.

    You just keep trying the method that's only made things more evil for 200 years. Romney will to everything Obama does; he'll just dupe "conservatives" like yourself into going along with it.
     
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    So your method is to not vote, i.e. do nothing to help or hinder. No wonder you like Paul, peas in a pod. Do nothing, the Paulobots secret to,,,,,,,,,,,,,doing nothing.
     
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    The job of a Congressman is to uphold the Constitution and to respect the natural rights of the individual. In that regard, Paul has outperformed every person in Congress, which is all I expect from Federal representatives. Maybe you expect them to be passing destructive regulations and passing monstrous omnibus spending bills, but I prefer someone who champions the Constitution and liberty. Maybe we just have different priorities?
     
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    Vote for Obama? Maybe some will, that is true, but I've seen plenty of so called conservatives on this forum saying they'd vote for Obama if Paul got the GOP nomination.

    And I will NOT vot for Obama, you can count on it.
     
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    A vote for Romney is just as bad as a vote for Obama...The only difference between these two tools is that each employs a slightly different rhetoric designed to pander to different sociological segments of hapless dupes. They are both puppet agents of the same entity. That entity is the one that instated the IRS, which is modeled after the second plank of the Communist Manifesto, and the Federal Reserve which has insured the steady march towards tyranny under the thumb of a tiny group of elite international bank swindlers. Ron Paul is the one man who has called these two agencies to task and would work feverishly to abolish them, along with their war starting and war profiteering partners in crime....The so called conservatives of today are nothing but standard bearers for the status quo, dupes for the war profiteers and corporate fascists who own both the demikins and the republicrats....Get a grip champ, it's never too late to pull your head out of your ass.

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    -Thomas Jefferson
     
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    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I took you off of ignore to read this drivel? (*)(*)(*)(*)!
    First there is no such thing as a Paul Phobe.
    Most of us who don't give Ron Paul a tinkers chance in hell actually like part of his programs. Just not the foreign policy ostrich act.
    Ron Paul is still in sailing ship mode, not 30 minutes Moscow to Washington ICBM mode. He hasn't even caught up to the friggin 1970's.
    All of your demographic charaltanism is not going to change the fact that in every closed primary he gets zilch. 7% tops. Don't start with primaries like Iowa and New hampshire where NOBODY else is still running.
    Face it. Romney is the nominee.
    I wanted Santorum after Bachmann dropped out, but I will campaign for Romney because he WILL be with us enthusiastically in 85% of what we want. He will go along with another 12% and maybe oppose 3 % of what we want. He will certainly appoint constitutionalist justices. That's what we really need.

    I'm starting to think you work for the democrats.
     
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    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You might as well if you don't vote at all. If you don't vote, you don't count.

    Schizoid is cutting off your nose to spite your face. First we have to stop them from killing the goose that laid the golden egg. Voting for a third party instead of Romney may hand it to Obama. I'll bet you'd love to see an end to the United States Constitution. That's the way you talk anyway.
     
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    Link to ONE, just one. Show me you are not lying through your ass.
     
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    Apparently the young people of today aren't too stupid and naive to see the legacy that will be left by their grandparents and parents.
     
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    More like an automaton. If you were a drone, Obama would be sending you to the Middle East (and now the Philippines and soon your backyard) to drop bombs on innocent men, women, and children.
     
  19. AbsoluteVoluntarist

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    I'm doing something--spreading the word. But I ain't gonna vote for an aspiring tyrant. That just makes the problem worse. As usual, your alternative is doing a bad thing. You need to get your mind off of the 4th grade propaganda.
     
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    In other words, he doesn't want to murder people overseas. Well, that's actually my number #1 requirement in any candidate.

    85% of what you want perhaps. Because you want pretty much the same stuff that Obama does, gussied up with "conservative" window dressing.

    And if you do vote for Mitt Romney, you count as part of the problem.

    You talk as though I'm in any way of member of any ideological or political group that you are a member. You my political enemy. Just because Obama is as well makes no difference. In fact, the very problem is that you and Mitt Romney have too much in common with Obama.
     
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    What you cannot grasp is that we do not live in Utopia. Never have, never will, we live in the USA. If you write in Paul or vote for some other joke candidate to "make a statement." all you have done is wasted a vote on someone that will not be remembered for more than a few MINUTES. And you have possibly allowed the worst of the 2 electable candidates to be reelected.

    Since we are not in Utopia, we need to pick the best choice of the ONLY 2 electable candidates.

    You reject that premise, SO DO I! But I deal with reality, and that IS reality.

    Paul has been preaching his message longer than MOST of his "supporters" have been alive. He hasn't garnered 10% of ONE party's vote in over 3 decades of droning. May 14, 2013, he will be retired and well on the way to being totally forgotten. That's what happens to those who ACHIEVE NOTHING, no matter how great the message. The young voters 10 years from now would say, "Paul who?" "Ron Paul? What did he DO?" Did you ever hear anyone talk about a historical figure and say, "This is what he said." NO, what you hear is, "This is what he DID!" DID! 10 years from now, there will be nothing for R. Paul to hang his hat on.

    The election will come to this in the non-Utopian world of reality, Romney or obama WILL be elected. This is REAL WORLD BIG BOY stuff. Not a game, not idealism, one of those 2 WILL be the next president.

    You have but 2 choices, 1., vote for the one that you think will be the least bad for the nation or could actually be the better of the 2. Or 2., waste you vote on a statement that will NOT be heard OR take yourself out of the process and not vote. No third choice.

    You HATE that? Welcome to the big boy world, there is lots not to like, but we still have to deal with it. There's even more to like.
     
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    Anyone who doesn't support Paul is your enemy? That is absolute idiocy. You should probably read your posts and think about what you have written before submitting them.

    I like Paul myself. In fact, I like him more than I like Romney. But this is the real world, and in the real world, four more years of Obama is something the US may not ever be able to recover from.

    Is Romney the ideal person for the job? Absolutely not. But it is either him or Obama at this point. To believe otherwise is simply wishful thinking.
     
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    Anyone who support Romney is my political enemy in the degree that anyone who supports Obama is.

    They say this every four years. I refuse to be guilt tripped into voting Establishment. The divide isn't between the right and the left; it's between the ruling elite and the rest of us. Romney is as much part of the other team as Obama is.
     
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    Ha, you really think the election is going to hinge on me? You're great evidence that voting itself is a delusion intended to dupe the cattle into thinking they're free.

    You keep talking about achieving nothing. What have you achieved? What has any election achieved but to keep you under the thumb of a monolithic ruling caste?

    Let's have them decide it on a bare-handed duel to the death. It would be cheaper, more entertaining, more meritocratic, and just as good an indicator of "the will of the people."
     
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    Fair enough, vote for Ron Paul then. Wait, it looks like he just dropped out. Now what?
     

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