US Coast Guard Commandant: We Are Falling Far Behind Russia in Arctic

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Uhhh, seems to me you are 'flipping' and taking what the sociopaths in Washington are doing, and presenting it as if Putin and Russia are the ones doing it. I know this was a common practice in domestic politics especially in the Clinton years, but incorporating it into our foreign affairs, and to a nation as formidable as Russia is leading the world to a catastrophe. As Putin said: "You can only push a spring so far before it will snap back."

    I love where you present the nations that are doing the most to hurt Russia such the US and Canada as the ones being willing to help it in a depression which is non existent...expect maybe in the fantasy minds of the Washington neo cons.

    Putin being a man of his word, said that every Russian response to Western sanctions will be to Russia's benefit...and he was right. Here's proof:


    In a recent article for business journal Japan Business Press, Japanese journalist and Russia industrial goods trade specialist Sugahara Nobuo stated that Russia is presently on course for an industrial revival, adding that Western sanctions have helped to 'breathe new life' into the country's machine-building sector.

    Commenting on his visit to Moscow's Expocenter for the 'Equipment, Instruments and Tools for the Metalworking Industry' this past May, Sugahara noted that this year he observed a number of important changes, pointing out that while the number of foreign exhibitors has declined due to the sanctions environment, the total number of businesses participating actually grew, from 1,036 to 1,200. Russian companies taking the place of their foreign counterparts.

    Furthermore, the number of visitors to the exhibition grew by 30 percent, and the majority of potential clients took a specific interest in the Russian exhibitors. The expert observed that many customers came to the event with concrete projects in mind, buying equipment directly from the stands, and showing a particular interest in Russian production for its lower cost outlays and guaranteed delivery. "As a result, Russian pavilions at the exhibition were constantly overcrowded."

    As far as impact of Western countries' politically imposed sanctions is concerned, Sugahara noted that while "Western sanctions have hit foreign companies and dealers, at the same time they have breathed new life into the Russian machine-building sector, which had previously tottered on the brink of collapse."


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/business/20150718/1024783910.html#ixzz3gGGoPQgI

    One has to wonder if the actual intent of Obama and his neo cons was not only to hurt Russia, but also their American allies such as the EU? Well they succeeded in hurting the EU, but not Russia...thanks to Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.
     
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    no, Russian government are murderers.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings
     
  3. Destroyer of illusions

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  4. AboveAlpha

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    You are talking about increases over in some cases between 15 to 19 YEAR PERIOD!!!

    And you posted and I quote...."Development of automotive industry, in 15 years grew by 58% production of cars."...end quote Kiwi

    Now considering very little cars are actually manufactured in Russia compared to say the United States which in 2014 manufactured 11,660,699 vehicles either cars and trucks, buses and vans.....the United States is ranked #2 in the World and China is ranked #1 at 23,722,890 vehicles although this figure is really inflated as China lists their total vehicle count including 3 wheel mini vehicles and 3 while MOTOR BIKES which are nothing more than an adapted Dirt Bike that has the same frame and size as one of the old Suzuki RM-150's and with one chain turns a very small axil that has attached to it on either sides two rear motor bike wheeles so in reality the United States is #1 in true Automobile, Truck, Van and Bus Manufacturing.

    If we look at RUSSIA'S total number of manufactured vehicles.....ir is #11 behind Canada that is at #10.....and at #11 Russia produced only 1,886,646 Cars, Trucks, Vans and Buses in 2014.

    So in 2014 Russia Manufactured 1,886,646 Vehicles.


    In 2013 Russia Manufactured 2,184,266 Vehices.....in 2012.... 2,233,103
    SEE A TREND HERE????

    2012.......2,233,103 Produced.

    2013.......2,184,266 Produced.

    2014.......1,886,646 Produced.

    RUSSIA IS GOING BACKWARDS AS FAR AS AUTOMOTIVE PRODUCTION!!!

    As far as GAZPROM.....

    Year 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013
    Natural gas........... 552.5 555.0 556.0 548.6 549.7 461.5 508.6 513.2 487.0 487.4
    billion cubic metres

    Now if you look at the above it shows that GAZPROM's PRODUCTION OF NATURAL GAS IS DECLINING ON A YEARLY BASIS!!!

    WHY???

    BECAUSE GAZPROM's ability to spend money on improving current systems....maximizing their Natural Gas Output in already drilling Fields....and using American High Technological Systems and Production Methods which COULD if used TRIPLE GAZPROM'S CURRENT NATURAL GAS OUTPUT USING THE SAME WELLS AND THE SAME SITES!!!

    If Gazpom was able to PARTER UP with both American and Canadian Super High Technology Natural Gad Drilling and Production Companies.....GAZPOM COULD WITH U.S AND CANADIAN HELP.....INCREASE DRILLING BY 10 FOLD thus INCREASE THE NEED FOR WORKERS BY 1 MILLION!!!!

    This would result for an additional 3 MILLION RUSSIAN WORKERS to build the necessary INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY TO HOUSE, PROVIDE GOODS AND SERVICES, PROVIDE AND BUILD HOPITALS AND FIRESTATIONS AND POLICE STATIONS AND EVERYTHING NEEDED TO HOUSE 5 TO 10 MILLION PEOPLE!!

    Now I am just talking about ONE RUSSIAN COMPANY....GAZPROM....and they need this because Russian Natural Gas Production is going to CONTINUE TO DECLINE unless they are able to either drill more wells in different locations but before they do that WE...the U.S. and Canada have the technology to use existing drilled Natural Gas Wells....and using a special method....increase their at this time declining output by many times what they currently are giving Russia.

    But before we can get to this SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS SCENARIO.....Putin either needs to be removed or Putin needs to STOP STEALING PROFITS FROM GAZPROM!!!!

    What good is Putin doing if he forces Tax Payments than STEALS 100 TIMES THAT AMOUNT FOR HIMSELF???

    The Russian People need to WAKE UP!!!!!

    The United States and Canada together have the necessary technology, experience and know how to help GAZPROM and every other Russian State Owned Company......TO DRAMATICALLY INCREASE PRODUCTION OF OIL AND NATURAL GAS and we can do this just using PREEXISTING DRILLED WILLS nevermind our experience in using an already existing well and bringing in a Highly Advanced U.S./Canadian SLAND DRILLING RIG HEAD....as we remove the existing top piping and cap it down low and from that point we SIDE VECTOR DRILL which allows us to gain access to gas pockets that cannot be accessed in the way GAZPROM DRILLS!!

    Now here is the thing......buy helping Russia with their Siberian Infrastructure and Drilling.....THAT would help the Russian Economy by creating HUGE NUMBERS OF JOBS....and this would help the U.S. and Canada in that we would both be able to decrease our level of Military Spending to defend against a Russia run by a man who keeps talking about war.

    The GOAL here is to DEVELOP THE SIBERIAN INFRASTRUCTURE which is necessary to do FIRST and at the same time as JOINT RUSSIAN/AMERICAN-CANADIAN DRILING TEAMS set up Drilling Platforms at LOCATIONS THAT CAN EASILY BE FOUND BY U.S. SATELLITE DEEP GROUND AND OCEAN PENETRATIG RADAR.....so unlike CHINA which would have to FUMBLE AND BUMBLE AROUND.....wasting time and money and doing and drilling hundreds to thousands of core samples......which is a 1920's method for locating oil or natural gas.

    U.S. Satellite's Deep Ground and Ocean Penetrating Radar Systems can determine EXACTLY where to DRILL and a GPS LOCATION....also an AMERICAN INVENTION AND GLOBAL SATELLITE SYSTEM......is set and then RUSSIAN WORKERS working along side a small number of American/Canadian ADVISORS....will simply have to BUILD A ROAD TO A LOCATION ONCE!!!! And then set up a rig and pumping station and pipeline and watch the MONEY COME IN!!!

    China....having ZERO EXPERIENCE doing this and also under PUTIN AND HIS 110 BUDDIES PLAN....INSTEAD OF RUSSIAN WORKERS PUTIN AND HIS BUDDY WANT TO SAVE MONEY SO THEY WILL MAKE MORE PROFITS AND BECAUSE OF THIS......

    ......and I cannot belive the Russian People would even ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN......Putin and his 110 Buddies want China to bring in 50,000 at first and then a maximum of up to 890,000 CHINESE PLA....PEOPLES LIBERATION ARMY workers into SIBERIA!!!

    The Chinese PLA Soldiers would WORK FOR FREE...and TAKE AWAY JOBS FROM RUSSIAN'S!!!

    BUT.....and here is where THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE WOULD LOSE BIG!!!!

    If Putin allows China to be the one's who ATTEMPT.....and I say ATTEMPT because I do not believe they are capable of doing it......allow CHINA TO ATTEMPT TO DEVELOP SIBERIAN INFRASTRUCTURE AND HAVE CHINESE WORKERS DRILLING FOR OIL AND GAS AND BUILDING ROADS ON TUNDRA AND PERMAFROST.......and just to let you know.....CHINA HAS ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA HOW TO DO THIS AS THEY HAVE NEVER BEFORE ATTEMPTED TO BUILD ROADS AND BUILDINGS OR DRILL UPON SUPER COLD WEATHER TUNDRA, PERMAFROST, ICE AND SNOW AND THROUGH FROZEN OCEAN OIL RIGS......

    ......if Putin's plan is enacted then CHINA will spend HUGE AMOUNT OF TIME JUST TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THESE THINGS!!!

    Russian workers will be SCREWED OVER....and if it was MY COUNTRY......THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL AMERICAN CITIZEN'S WOULD ALLOW CHINESE WORKERS TO TAKE AWAY JOBS FROM AMERICAN'S ON THEIR OWN SOIL!!!!

    So Kiwi.....GOOD LUCK WITH ALL THAT!!

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  5. AboveAlpha

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    We might Invade other Nations with a reason.

    BUT WE NEVER STEAL THEIR RESOURCES!!!

    WE PAY FOR any resource we get from any nation we had to invade.

    Now in 2023...BOTH....the United States and Canada will become 100% COMPLETELY ENERGY SELF SUFFICIENT!!!!

    As well we will have so much Energy Resources the U.S. will become the #1 WORLDS LARGEST PRODUCER AND EXPORTER OF SHALE OIL.

    Canada will become the #1 WORLDS LARGEST PRODUCER AND EXPORTER OF SAND TAR OIL!

    The United States has always been and will remain the #1 WORLDS LARGEST EXPORTER OF COAL as the US. has more Coal Resrves than the entire world put together.

    China has asked us to increase our Coal Exports to them by 5 Times and we told them..."We can do that imediately."

    China was surprised so they asked us if it was possible to increase Coal Exports to China by 10 Times.....again we told China....we can do that immediately.

    Again China was very surprised and asked us just hom many times could we increase COAL EXPORTS COMPARED TO THE YEARLY COAL TONNAGE THE U.S. NOW EXPORTS TO CHINA....which is a lot by the way.....and we told China...."Well...that depends upon if you agree to PURCHASE AMERICAN COAL SMOKE STACK POLLUTION AND CO2 SCRUBBERS?"

    We explained to China we could INSTANTLY INCREASE U.S. COAL EXPORTS TO CHINA BY 25 TIMES....but ONLY....if China agreed to allow American Firms into China to install New Advanced and EXPENSIVE....AMERICAN DESIGNED COAL BURNING ELECTRIC GENERATORS WHICH USE.........

    ........A SUPER HIGH TEMP. REBURNER IN 3 PHAZES AS WELL AS ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND U.S. CO2 CATCHING AND POLLUTION SCRUBBING CHIMNEY EXHAUST SYSTEMS.

    At first China said NO.

    But with the problems China is having meeting their ENERGY REQUIREMENTS and most of this is due to Russia not meating their OIL EXPORT QUOTAS.....China said YES....just this past week.

    This is NEW TECHNOLOGY and will be made MANDATORY upon all U.S. Coal Burning Plants as the U.S. EPA already requires POLLUSION SCRUBBERS.....but this will also remove the CO2 and Pollusion from Chimney Emmisions.

    Anyways.....we pay for what we buy!!

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    Horse(*)(*)(*)(*).

    That's like a Mafioso getting his tentacles into your business, then saying they're not "stealing your resources".

    Well it's true, they're not. They're merely "extracting a vig", they're making you pay 20% for doing nothing. Geopolitics is all about who gets that 20%.

    Don't fool yourself into thinking "we pay". That would be the exact opposite of what really happens. What really happens is we get paid, for doing nothing. That's the capitalist dream, that's what makes it all work.
     
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    American policy in the one picture

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  8. AboveAlpha

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    Jeannette......YOU KNOW.....I NEVER.....post something that is not a FACT....and if you can prove me wrong I will admit I am wrong as long as you have a link from a reputable source.

    WHAT I NOW POST IS A FACT!!!!!!

    PUTIN HIMSELF WENT ON NATIONAL RUSSIAN TV AND STATED THAT HE EXPECTED THAT IN 2015 THE RUSSIAN ECONOMY WOULD DECLINE BETWEEN 5.5% AND 7.5% AND PERHAPS EVEN HIGHER!!!

    THE UNITED STATES ESTIMATES THE RUSSIAN ECONOMIC DECLINE GO BE AS HIGH AS 9.1%.

    CREDIT SWISS ESTIMATES THE RUSSIAN ECONOMIC DECLINE COULD GO AS HIGH AS 12.5%.

    WHEN A NATION IS IN A STATE OF ECONOMIC DECLINE THUS A LOWERING OF THE GDP.....THIS IS KNOWN AS A NATION SLIDING INTO AN ECONOMIC DEPRESSION!!!!!

    BY PUTIN'S OWN ESTIMATE.....THIS RUSSIAN DEPRESSION COULD LAST AS LONG AS 7 TO 10 YEARS!!!

    I MYSELF DIDN'T SAY ALL THIS.....PUTIN DID!!!

    A RECESSION....which the Uited States got out of a few years back.....IS WHEN A NATION'S ECONOMIC GROWTH RATE INDEX DECLINES FROM SAY.....4.3% ECONOMIC GROWTH IN ONE YEAR AND THE NEXT YEAR IN HAS SLID DOWN TO ONLY 2.9% ECONOMIC GROWTH.

    But in a RECESSION there is STILL ECONOMIC GROWTH.....just at a less amount and rate.

    A DEPRESSION IS CAPABLE OF BANKRUPTING A NATION and RUSSIA IS IN A GREAT DEPRESSION.

    Any Nation with an ECONOMIC DEPRESSION where ECONOMIC OUTPUT HAS LOWERED ITSELF GREATER THAN 10%.....is a NATION THAT IS NOT CAPABLE OF PROVIDING STANDARD SERVICES TO IT'S CITIZENS AND A DEPRESSION ABOVE 10% USUALLY RESULTS IN THE CLOSURE OF BANKS IN THAT NATION AND THE LASS OF ALL STOCK INVESTMENTS BY THE POPULATION IS SUCH STOCKS ARE IN RUSSIAN COMPANIES!!!

    If I had some Money and was living in Russia I would have made certain to have such money in either GOLD or U.S. Dollars as the Euro keeps losing value as the U.S. Dollar increases in value.

    I would also deversify by portfolio in WALL STREET by buying DIAMOND STOCK PLANS...and this is not purchasing STOCK IN A DIAMOND MINE!! LOL!!!

    Diamond Stock Plan's are a plan where a certain large some of money is given to a broker and they GURANTEE A MINIMUM OF 10% RETURN AT MINIMUM due to large amount of money inversed.

    The Portfolio is divided into BLUE CHIPS STOCKS....such as IBM, NETFICKS, Boeing, Lockheed, Train Caro, Utility Stocks.....then a small percentage of this large smount of money is invested in SUPER HIGH TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES....THUS high risk/high RETURN!!

    Companies that are working on NANO TECHNOLOGY, FUSION REACTORS, GENETIC REASERCH...ETC.

    But the point is that your money is spread out over the entire Market in the estimated GROWTH SECTORS and years ago I invested in JDSuni.....which went up and up and up and kept STOCK SPLITTING AND STOCK SPLITTING AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!

    I sold after it had split a multitude of times and was at 149.40 a Share as I bought 1000 Shares when it was at 11.24 a share and when I sold it at 149.40 a share I had 64,000 shares.

    It then went down to 96.23 a share and I bought 100,000 shares and it went up over $150 a share and I sold all 100,000 shares.....and a good thing I did because the stock rised up to $153 and dropped to $2!!!!!!!!

    During the 90's.....JDS Uniphase stock was a high-flyer tech stock investor favorite and it's stock price doubled three times and three stock splits of 2:1 occurred roughly every 90 days during the last half of 1999 through early 2000.

    ANYWAYS.....Russian's in general do not understand the STOCK MARKET compared to the average U.S. Family which ON A HIGH AVERAGE.....at least one member of a U.S. Family buy's STOCKS ONLINE!!

    EVERY MEMBER OF MY CLOSE FAMILY BUY'S STOCKS including my Mom and Dad!!!

    We bought NETFLICKS when it was $5 a share!!!

    We bought APPLE at the right time!!

    Thing is in Russia there really is no existing economic engine other than Oil and Gas and Putin controlls that so what else does Russia have?

    Vodka, Caviar.....what else? Not much.

    Russia has to build it's own SUPPLY AND DEMAND DRIVEN SYSTEM within Russia and the ONLY way to do that is for there to be JOBS!!! JOBS!!! JOBS!!!!!

    If Russian's had good high paying JOBS....they would be purchasing CARS and building new HOMES and these two things DRIVE JUST ABOUT EVERY ASPECT OF THE AMERICAN ECONOMY!!!

    People get in their cars to drive down to HOME DEPOT in order to purchase tools and materials to upgrade and renovate their homes or gut an older home like I did that was an late 17th Century MANSION.....and I ripped out all the plaster and lathe and ripped out the old Knob and Tube Electrical and ripped out ceilings walls and expanded areas and put in all new plumbing and an all new Gas High Efficency Furnace that is FORCED HOT AIR and I bought the furnace with the variable FAN SPEED as I added in CENTRAL AIR....and I put in two 40 Gallon Hot Water Heaters....one for the donstais and cellar and one for the 2nd floor and 3rd floor.

    I brought in a friends Bobcat and removed all the old landscaping and planted and landscaped myself the entire property.

    I also insteas of loam for the lawn put in SILT which is the nutrient rich runoff from a GRAVEL PIT ROCK CRUSHER as the Gravel Pit crushes rocks and seperated the rocks into piles of sand....different size rocks for everything from landscaping to rocks for roads.

    The Silt is a grey color and it holds in water at 20 times greater than loam/

    ANYWAYS....my point is you don't tend to see people doing this in Russia.

    If Russia was adble to develop a MIDDLE CLASS.....they could drastically increase their Economic GDP!!!

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    Everything I posted is a FACT!!

    The U.S. and Canada will become completely 100% ENERGY SELF SUFFICIENT IN 2023!!

    THIS MEANS WE HAVE NO NEED OF RUSSIAN OIL AND NATURAL GAS!!!

    RUSSIA HAS NOTHING WE NEED!!

    Although some good Vodka and Caviar are always nice.

    RUSSIA...on the other hand.....NEEDS WHAT THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA HAVE!!!

    Russia NEEDS OR HELP!!!

    We have the money, the experience, the Technology, the Methods and the KNOW HOW.....to quickly, easily and inexpensively....USING RUSSIAN WORKERS THUS CREATING JOBS FOR RUSSIAN'S NOT THE CHINESE....be able to design and build ROADS THAT WON'T SINK.....BUILDINGS THAT WON'T CRACK THEN SINK......PIPELINES THAT DON'T LEAK AND SINK AND INTERFERE WITH WILDLIFE MIGRATION....DEVELOP PUMPING STATIONS THAT DON'T SEIZE UP IN -100 Derees below Zero F.

    Russia does not have these abilities....and they don't have the money.

    China is worse off than Russia as far as having such capabilities.

    So.....why not PARTNER UP?

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    We get PAID when we greatly increase a nations TECHNOLOGY and help develop ENERGY SYSTEMS AND EXPORT METHODS that greatly increase the PROFITS for another Nation.

    EVERYONE who does this get's paid and they should!!!

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    In some areas of cooperation going on. For example in space. US does not have the necessary technology. Russia has all the technology. Russia is helping the United States.
    Or another example - the United States in the development of peaceful nuclear technology behind Russia for decades. (the last US nuclear power plants built more than 30 years). Russia could help the Americans.
     
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    I am happy to see you are posting about peaceful cooperation.

    As far as Space Technology NASA has been retasked to build Interplanetary Rovers and Surveyors as well with the help of JPL....the JET PROPULSION LABS Managed for NASA by the California Institute of Technology....we have designed several new forms of Propulsion such an an Ion Drive and Solar Sails.

    As far as Cargo for the ISS....this task was given to Falcon X which has experienced a few problems but from what I have read they have gotten the bugs out.

    Russia has a very dependable Orbital Transport and it's simplicity is it's strongest point.

    As far as Nuclear Reactors the United States Military has already carried out it's third successful test of it's new Low Temp. Micro Fusion Generator.

    Now this is not ROOM TEMPERATURE it is LOW TEMPERATURE which means it's low temp. for a Micro Fusion reaction thus HOT IN THE EXTREME....but containable.

    The concept is to use the very smallest number of Hydrogen Atoms possible and using a Classified Method....most likely a Laser....Fuse the smallest number of Hydrogen Atoms into Helium.

    The problem that every other nation has had with creating Fusion Reactors is CONTAINMENT....as a Fusion Reaction is hot in the extreme and will melt through anything thus the use of MICRO FUSION by using the smallest possible numbers of Hydrogen Atoms and Fuse them into Helium allows containment.

    With Fusion Technology already available for Military use it is just a matter of time it is available for Civilian Energy Generation so the U.S. will not be building anymore Fission Reactors.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Why you so solved, a big question...
    Ok...we read in your link.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings

    The Russian apartment bombings were a series of explosions that hit four apartment blocks in the Russian cities of Buynaksk, Moscow and Volgodonsk in September 1999, killing 293 and injuring 651 people and spreading a wave of fear across the country. The bombings, together with the Dagestan War, led the country into the Second Chechen War.

    According to the official version and sentences of judicial authorities of Russia, acts of terrorism were organized and financed by heads of the illegal armed group Islamic institute "Caucasus". The Emir al-Hattabom and Abu Oumar were carried out by groups of North Caucasian fighters employed by them.

    We read according to the link - Second Chechen War
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War#First_Chechen_War
    Chaos in Chechnya
    Following the first war, the government's grip on the chaotic republic was weak, especially outside the ruined capital Grozny. The areas controlled by separatist groups grew larger and the country became increasingly lawless.[33] The war ravages and lack of economic opportunities left large numbers of heavily armed and brutalized former separatist fighters with no occupation but further violence. The authority of the government in Grozny was opposed by extremist warlords like Arbi Barayev and Salman Raduyev. Abductions and raids into other parts of the Northern Caucasus by various Chechen warlords had been steadily increasing.[34] In place of the devastated economic structure, kidnapping emerged as the principal source of income countrywide, procuring over $200 million during the three-year independence of the chaotic fledgling state.[35] It has been estimated that up to 1,300 people were kidnapped in Chechnya between 1996 and 1999,[33] and in 1998 a group of four Western hostages were murdered. Political violence and religious extremism, in the form of Islamist Wahhabism, was rife as well. In 1998, a state of emergency was declared by the authorities in Grozny. Tensions led to open clashes like the July 1998 confrontation in Gudermes in which some 50 people died in fighting between Chechen National Guard troops and the Islamist militias.

    If your relatives were kidnapped or cut off the head in Chechnya in 1990h. You would shout - Putin everything OK, leave this region alone, let them continue to kidnap people from your country and to cut off their heads?
     
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    I say yes about the period of 15 years in which Putin governed. You slandered earlier that allegedly Putin the thief. I showed you the analysis that welfare of Russia improved, for these 15 years. You start telling me - here look in America how good...!!! Good for you , live and develop there, but don't climb to Russia with your false democracy...
     
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    It is not slander to state a fact.

    Putin and his 110 Buddies own over 35% of all Russian Wealth.

    Now how do you think they got so rich?

    These guy's are not Engineers or Oil or Natural Gas specialists. They are not scientists or inventors.

    They are all former members of the KGB, GRU, Former High Ranking Communist Leaders and former Soviet Military Brass.

    Putin placed them in control of every single at one time Private Russian Company which Putin seized and declared state Owned.

    They are skimmig Billions of Dollars worth of Oil and Natural Gas Profits.

    That's the facts.

    You also talked about Putin increasing the Manufactre of Russian Built Vehicles such as cars, trucks, vans and buses yet they are building less vehicles in Russia every year.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Ask them.

    In 1990 I with friends bought goods in Germany and wholesale sold in Russia. Same in Japan and South Korea. In one city in the Far East, there was a paper-mill, at the expense of this factory earlier, there was this small city, after disorder of the USSR, the factory went bankrupt, in the city there was no work, people sold very cheap the apartments and left. We risked, but bought up their houses. (we assumed that reconstruct this plant in the future also a situation to change to the best, and we weren't mistaken) In some years, Japanese invested in this factory and life it began to be adjusted. People began to come back to the city. We sold this housing, many times more expensively. etc...
    Some people behind my back called me the thief. I called myself the businessman. Also and others who was engaged in commerce in Russia. It is sure, also and 110 friends of Putin, only there the sizes are bigger...

    PS: were engaged in commerce and at the same time both studied and worked, there was such life...
     
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    Right now Russia is in an Economic Depression.

    As well Energy Exports in Russia in 2015 will account for over 80% of the entire Russian Economy.

    This spells disaster for the average Russian Family.

    AboveAlpha
     

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