US drops 40 tons of bombs on IS-'infested' island in Iraq

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  1. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How mankind made it as far as it has without the heroic efforts of that moral giant, Putin, and the technically and scientifically advanced nation of Russia, must be pure blind luck.
     
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  2. Bluesguy

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    We hit a strategic IS military base, that is not swatting flies.
     
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    The problem is not what we hit in Iraq, but what else did we hit in Iraq? The UN Commission of Inquiry has slammed the war crimes committed against civilians in Syria by US and allied forces.

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    "... it singles out the US-led international coalition for repeated and indiscriminate targeting of non-combatants..."

    International coalition forces failed to employ the necessary precautions to discriminate adequately between military objectives and civilians,” the report states, warning that “launching indiscriminate attacks that result in death or injury to civilians amounts to a war crime in cases where such attacks are conducted recklessly.”
    "...US and allied forces are blamed for “widespread destruction of towns and villages in [Deir ez-Zor] Governorate” and the resulting displacement of thousands, many of whom ended up in the notorious Al-Hol camp, where disease and abysmal conditions reign..."

    "... the report cites the “dire humanitarian conditions” suffered by populations caught between the “widespread corruption, extortion, lack of services and security, and abuse of power” by the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) and the remnants of the Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) terrorist group, as well as other groups like the Levant Liberation Organization (formerly al Nusra our moderate terrorists), which it accuses of deliberately terrorizing populations living under Syrian government control..."
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    I guess we've gone beyond Nazi Germany and Imperialist Japan. The soldiers who died in WWII must be turning in their graves. What we once fought, we have now become.


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    What we were once
    we've ceased to be,
    for times have changed now,
    can't you see?

    The flag that once
    waved high and true
    is now all worn,
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    And mourns for days
    when we had pride,
    of noble words
    and not of lies. - Jeannette



     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're forgetting that Russia is a high tech nation, or maybe you just don't know. As for Vladimir Putin, what's wrong with buying the minds and hearts of people? It was a policy we followed in our more civilized age.
     
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    Yeah, the raid on the Tigris island is an extremely small mission but you don't want to expend more assets than are necessary. Once you've killed the people and broken their stuff the mission is complete. Kudos USAF.
     
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    No but it is an unintended consequence of war.

    Nobody has the right to kill anybody.
     
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    The Philippine Insurrection (1899-1913) was probably the most politically incorrect war America has ever fought.

    Second longest war after the Afghanistan war.
    6,000 American soldiers, Marines and sailors were killed during the Philippine Insurrection.
    The Philippine Insurrection was so politically incorrect that historians don't even want to touch it.

    The most barbaric war America has ever fought was in the Pacific theatre of war in the Pacific during the Second World War.

    The entire theatre of war in the Pacific was one big free fire zone where U.S.Marines didn't take prisoners and every Jap was indoctrinated that U.S.Marines ate babies for breakfast.
     
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    I've relayed your message to Chicago.

    Wait a second....I just got a reply.

    I was just called a "punk ass pecker wood bitch."
     
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    That will teach you.
     
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    We hit a military logistics base. If IS is placing civilians in those areas THEY are responsible and spare me the UN once again attacking US and western forces let me know when they mount a global effort to fight the Islamist terrorist who threaten us all.
     
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    What? Civilians didn't die during bombings during WW II? An all-out war is an all-out war--there are no rules but one, win, as quickly as possible.



    Ask Judas about betraying values for silver.

    Do you know the saddest thing about Putin? He's read Ayn Rand. He's read We the Living, The Fountainhead, Atlas Shrugged, Anthem. He knows the truth and had the strength of character to be a hero, but instead, he chooses the life of mediocre demagogue in exchange for today's substitute for silver, oil dollars.

    He knew better and he surrendered. For that, there is no forgiveness.
     
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    Sounds more like the US doesn't care about civilian casualties and find it weird when some people cheered when their civilians were killed at 911.
     
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    That is not how it works. The US is responsible for the killing around with not a care in the world. You don't go blow up a bank with everybody in it, just to stop 1 person robbing the place. That is how it is.
    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docs/v2_rul_rule11
     
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    Yes that is how it works, if the enemy puts civilians on a military target they are responsible.

    "In the context of international armed conflicts, this rule is set forth in the Third Geneva Convention (with respect to prisoners of war), the Fourth Geneva Convention (with respect to protected civilians) and Additional Protocol I (with respect to civilians in general).[1] Under the Statute of the International Criminal Court, “utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations” constitutes a war crime in international armed conflicts.[2]

    ...In addition, deliberately using civilians to shield military operations is contrary to the principle of distinction and violates the obligation to take feasible precautions to separate civilians and military objectives (see Rules 23–24)."
    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docs/v1_rul_rule97
     
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    A civilian structure was not targeted nor was the attack for the purpose of inflicting death and harm to civilians. What don't you get that it was a military base used as a logistic transfer and stockade of arms?
     
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    You go source that civilians were used as human shields. The entire claim that the US just can bomb away indiscriminately is a joke.
     
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    Says who? People went to jail for proving the US was just massacring away in the past.

     
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    Well I hope you still feel that way when you're on the receiving end.. I read that we almost ended up in a nuclear war 5 times in the past 3 years. Twice with Syria and 3 times with Eastern Europe.

    Putin is strange that way, he prefers Russian philosophers/theologians like Berdyaev, Solovyev, Ilyin and even recommended his governors to read up on them during their holidays instead of your great American authors there.

     
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    Exactly the opposite is true.
     
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    Odd. You do know that Ayn Rand was born in Russia, lived through the Bolshevik Revolution, lived under both Lenin and Stalin, escaped to America with her friends' words whispered to her, "Tell America. Tell them that Russia is a cemetery." She did. Putin understands. He knows who Kira is. He knows it's his kind that bled her soul red on Russia's winter's snows.
     
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    You seem to place enormous stock in what "You Read" above and beyond what you see.....why is that?
     
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    Senior researcher at the Dutch NGO PAX, Wim Zwijnenburg, said in an interview with Fox News that images of the island taken before the bombing don't indicate the presence of any structure either on the surface or on the ground. It received its nickname because it was used by Daesh* fighters as a transit hub or as a "hotel" when they were travelling to Syria from Iraq and back, according to a spokesperson for the Iraqi Counter Terrorism Service.

    What the bombing did was destroy 70% of the vegetation on the island. One has to wonder how much it cost us? I know that before Russia entered the war we were bombing the desert and not the supplies of oil and arms between ISIS and Turkey. Anyway right now there's friction with Iraq, they want us out of there, so there might be another reason for it.

    I have news for you, the atheist Soviet Union hasn't died. It moved here with Soros and the Trotsky ideologues and their new liberal one world order. It's the same Godless control and slavery of humanity through propaganda and brainwashing. It's also the same indifference towards human lives and impositions of our 'system' and control on other nations through chaos, regime changes and wars.

    There is one difference though. The Soviet Union was government controlled, while our system is corporate control. But as Vladimir Putin said, the Soviet system didn't survive and neither will ours.
     
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    And pray tell, what do I see beyond what I read?

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    I would hope you saw nothing remotely indicative of a lead up to nuclear war.
     
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    It was an underground tunnel system and heavy vegetation where they were trying to hide.

    "Tuesday’s strikes were meant to disrupt the hardline Islamist group’s ability to hide in the thick vegetation on the island, the coalition statement said."
    https://www.stripes.com/news/middle-east/us-bombs-isis-island-in-iraq-s-tigris-river-1.598176

    I would prefer to blow up a little vegetation which will grow right back than having our enemy be able to use the island to move their troops around in their war against us. Why are you against fighting the radical Islamic terrorist who want to kill us?
     

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