Well, it's finally happened, Justice Dept handed down Seditious Conspiracy indictments

Some of us are fed up with the violent types, period. There's absolutely no excuse for any of it.

 

Trump never gave them marching orders in the first place to do what they intended to do. People have the right to protest. What they thought they were doing is irrelevant, just as it was for Bernie's supporter who went in and attacked our democracy several years ago by shooting up Republicans. He thought he was "following" Bernie at that time. Bernie isn't responsible for nutcases on his side and neither is Trump.

 

Uh that would guarantee it to be fake. The alphabet soup media is now little more than the progressive agenda's propaganda arm.

 

Bernie didn't put out a call for a bunch of violent nitwits to meet him at the baseball field and then deliver a speech telling them the fate of the country was at stake unless they acted with strength to save it while identifying Repubs as the problem.

 

It is quite as likely; that they ended because such things have a life span of their own.

 

Meaningless indeed. Waste of the cyber-webs .

 

Sorry, this is most likely denial and projection. Cheerio.

 

Reread my reply.

 

Fake news = thought terminating cliché.

thought terminating clichés are non arguments.

 

As a rule people who are arrested (as opposed to cited) are charged at or very near the time of arrest. They have to be because its illegal to hold citizens in detention without a criminal charge in the first place (certain specific exceptions like quarantine not withstanding) . The link you provided without goes to the rules of how a matter progresses once someone has been arrested and the constraints of how long the State has to amend the original charge, lay additional charges and initiate proceedings before a court.

But once arrested and if denied bail or unable to afford the bond the length of time a trial can take (fair and speedy etc) is largely governed by two issues. The first is how complex the case is (think of any the big, front page insider trading/corporate fraud cases we've all read about or a big CT case etc). Secondly how busy the court is. The only other issue I can think of that might effect how long a trial lasts is how wealthy the accused is. Their trials always seem to take longer to proceed/last longer than the average Joe's. I guess the average US citizen lucks out there for once. 'Fair and speedy trials ' are a right the poor seem to to be able to access much more easily than the rich for some reason.

All of the above aside it is true that the State has a constitution obligation not to drag its feet and delay trials unnecessarily, the decision as to whether that is the case resting in the hands of the Court of course. However you only have to look at how long many matters take to precede through the courts to realize 'speedy' doesn't necessarily have the standard dictionary definition in this context.

 

He gave them legitimacy, empowered them.

That is why he bears responsibility, at least in part.

The bernie thing is irrelevant and a specious comparison.

 

Well then I guess I'm not a progressive, in your terms, because I love the Constitution, it's Government and my Nation.

 

What a sad existence, you can't trust anything.

 

That's what I was provided...

 

Google is not a though-terminating cliché, it is a tool.

 

Don't you know a Freaken "Witch Hunt" when you see one mate .. "extra-ordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds"

 

Doesn't this story conflict with your story?

...
Sund contradicts claims made by officials after Wednesday's assault on Capitol Hill. Sund's superiors said previously that the National Guard and other additional security support could have been provided, but no one at the Capitol requested it.

Sund told the Post that House Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving was concerned with the "optics" of declaring an emergency ahead of the protests and rejected a National Guard presence. He says Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Michael Stenger recommended that he informally request the Guard to be ready in case it was needed to maintain security.
https://www.npr.org/2021/01/11/9555...ims-national-guard-was-never-called-during-ri

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The former chief says his request was denied.

 

Funny, a believer in the conspiracy theory of the BIG LIE of a stolen election thinks the left is in denial. LOL.

 

Your rebuttal is one or more items on the list.

 

Filled with cliches, inaccuracies and out right lies. Computers will believe anything you tell them.

 

I would guess the shooter was convicted.

 

Is a Witch Hunt Mate ..

"According to the seditious conspiracy indictment, the defendants conspired through a variety of manners and means, including: organizing into teams that were prepared and willing to use force and to transport firearms and ammunition into Washington, D.C.; recruiting members and affiliates to participate in the conspiracy; organizing trainings to teach and learn paramilitary combat tactics; bringing and contributing paramilitary gear, weapons and supplies"

what is this gibberish .. Folks that were "Prepared and willing to use force" .. but did not do so.

what a joke -- and how did they find out this "Intended but never carried out" activities... Listening in to some club-house in btfk shaboogamo .. some fellow beaking of about how armed resistence is justified ... Reminds me of McCarthy --- .. the thought police . out to secure your freedoms .. including domestic spying ..

YOu got blinders on -- big time .. no trees can be seen for the forest ..

 

Bernie has encouraged protests numerous times and even called for a revolution repeatedly. Trump can't encourage people to protest?

 

Americans have the right to protest. We have had summers long protests where law enforcement was attacked, swaths of US territory were taken over and turned into lawless zones, and our democracy was attacked by attempts to overrun a federal court. Yes, some protesters turn into rioters.

 

But Bernie the instigator wasn't even investigated.