What the Muslims here think about "Dubai rape case"and [B]Sharia law[/B] in general?

Violence.

It would seem some deny the passive and accepting aspects of the teachings, in favor of the undefined and interpreted parts to kill.



It does not make sense to me....the qu'ran can be seen as beautiful, yet it is because of idiots bent on hatred......similar to the bible(s), but on steroids.

Both simply suck....and the detriment far outways the benefit....in my opinion.

 

The problem with the Islamists is that they underestimate the intelligence of the rest of the world, to their detriment of course. So the Muslims will keep suffering with the belief that Allah is going help them in their quest in imposing the superiority of Islam, with its Medieval Arabic culture on the rest of the world.

 

Sorry but I dont understand you , we're not on the same frequency . Byeee ...

 

Islam knows how to get around things, when it's self serving to the men. Instead of having exmarital sex, they are allowed to have many wives and temporary marriages as well.

 

She was freed because she had a Western country supporting her. What would have happened to her had she been from an Islamic country, that is the question?

Look I don't believe that we have any right to impose our values on other nations, but there should be a humane and middle road between the extremes of Islam and the extremes of Western secularism.

 

Citation needed. Not going to let you go with that.

 

Islam displaced a lot of really barbaric religions. Before the rise of Islam, Arabs were still doing human sacrifice and women were chattels.

Would you care to show me in the Qur'an how Islam calls for tyranny?

The Qur'an was the first holy scripture to codify the idea that women had the right to own property.

No, the Qur'an does not permit sexual slavery.

I see you have still not read the Qur'an. You would look a bit less foolish if you did before pontificating on what Islam is.

 

Had she been from an Islamic country , then I very much doubt she'd have been intoxicated and would have had more sense than to place herself in such a sexually risky
situation. -

Common sense.

The problem today is , only the extremes are sensationally reported in our media

What your term as "humane and middle road " moderates is DULL - it doesn't grab headline news - remains UNREPORTED. and doesn't feed bigoted Islamophobes


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Lien may believe or may not believe what she wrote about Sharia. It's allowed in Islam to lie in order to propagate the faith...it's called taqiyyah. Lien keeps insisting that Islam will dominate the world which makes me wonder if she thinks we will admire a political triumph of Islam, since she said there were converts to Islam after 911. Bin Laden bragged after it that one always admires the winner.

Well Lien, you have your cultures mixed up.. We do not bow down, admire and follow leaders who contradict themselves continuously like Erdogan, simply because they bully others into submission and act tough, we're not Turks. You forget our laws and institutions are based on a faith where God suffered and died unjustly so we could have eternal life, not a faith where god killed others in order to triumph politically. Big difference!

 

It could have all been avoided if she and other Westerners were just fined heavily for breaking the law, rather than being jailed. We have the same problem here in the U.S. with possession of marijuana. Young people are being jailed, especially Hispanics when caught, and then they come out of jail hardened criminals. A little balance wouldn't hurt anyone.

 

And thus...the Muslim faith in unaccepted here...few bother to see it, and the followers do not wish to discuss it with those who do.?
Is it any wonder the west dismisses you as pointless, violent, and unworthy.

Step up to the plate, or remain a negative.

The ball is in your court.

 

I want you to show me these strange verses talking about but you dont , you shared a verse and I wanted you to show me strange part of it but you said "violence" LoL : ))) I dont know you but I dont use any drugs or alcohol , even acidic beverages . Only fresh squeezed juice , tea and milk . A friendly advice ; reduce the dosage of whatever you're using .

 

Where is the violence?

 

It may be an issue with language, but you make very little sense when my comment is considered. If you are the representation of Islam I am
n left with....I do not consider it worthy if my effort. Quite simply, you have not refuted my position at all, and may have inadvertently supported it.

 

If that were true, there would not be many types of Muslims. Obviously there are different interpretations, and each interpretation has it's own leadership.

I was not speaking of the book itself, but of the leaders of Muslim nations. The only places Islam seems to flourish are places where access to information is heavily restricted by the leadership.

 

Wasn't Carter the president during Iran's Islamic revolution? He was a Democrat.

You got it all wrong kid. When our constitution was written, each colony had it's own established Church. Pennsylvania was Quacker, Maryland was Catholic, etc. Our Founding Fathers wanted to be certain that the Federal government would not establish it's own Church, so that people would be free to worship in whichever way they wanted. In other words they didn't want the Federal government to impose restrictions on any Church or religion. What the liberals are trying to do is the opposite of what the Constitution implied. They want to impose restrictions and limit peoples freedom of religion. This is definitely against our Constitution.

In other words no one can stop you from preaching in the streets if you want, and for students to say prayers if they want in the school and on the school grounds. What is not allowed is for the schools to tell the students what to pray or what not to pray.

Simple, these people were throwing their children in fires as human sacrifice, as well as other pagan practices which were just as evil. So when the Jews decided to kill them so as not to fall back into their own pagan customs, God allowed it. The reason the Old Testament says He told them is because it was the only way it could be understood in that time and place. In reality God is Pure Love, and cannot negate from that which He created, so He cannot order the destruction of anything.

 

Another false fact from you to go with your many

 

Freedom from....not freedom of.

 

Have to ask. Did you post the wrong verse?

 

LoL : ))) you remind me my neighbor's 4 years old boy .

Boy - what is this Lien ?
Me - this is a car
Boy - what is this ?
Me - this is a pencil
Boy - what is this Liennnnnn
Me - this is a seat
Boy - what is this ???
Me - this is a glass
Boy - what is thisssss
Me - this is a spoon
Boy - why ???
Me -
Boy - Whyyyyyyyy ?

 

Sects for people those who dont use their brain . I dont believe in hadiths , maybe there are real hadiths said by Hz.Muhammed(sav) but many of them are fabricated or changed over time . Already he's another normal human studying Quran like me .

 

no...I did not

 

So basically...anyone with a different interpretation than yours?

I have to imagine they probably feel the same way about you. Apparently the Quran is NOT all you need, because not everyone seems to agree on how to interpret it.

This will prevent Islam from taking over the world as you suggest. Because a large percentage of them will moderate to fit in with their host societies. This has happened with every religion in every society so far that allows free speech. There is no way to prevent it.

 

the only thing I can grasp from this...would be my correct assumption that we have a language issue, as your comment makes no sense in English whatsoever. Considering the forum criteria for the use of English as the standard form of communication....I submit you have not met this standard.

however, I understand your deficiency, and accept it as part of that which you are....so I will simply blow you off as a waste.

Good job in making Islam seem pleasant.