WISE Founder Teaches Muslim Women Self Defense To Protect Against Hate Crimes

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well it's the morons who are the threat to them isn't it!! If they 'ask for it' they'll probably get it! We might not approve but that's life!
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually guns weren't invented in the 7th century either, so they'd have to give them up as well, and they sure wouldn't wanna do that? I have a sneaking suspicion that they haven't thought this one through! [​IMG]
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    On the contrary, their menfolk force them to wear it.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just saying it like it is. [​IMG] You might think it's worth the risk of being assaulted by some nutter, but I don't. Also it's divisive - I get pissed off walking around my town outnumbered by bloody foreigners who are obviously making no attempt to assimilate. Now that's 'subjective'? Your tolerance is probably greater than mine. Good for you!
     
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    A few thoughts. Everyone has a right to dress as he/she chooses (unless it is a public safety issue, such as a veil obscuring a driver's license photo). Any physical attack on a religious minority is wrong. Discrimination against Muslims is both morally wrong and ultimately self-defeating, as it tends to aggravate latent radicalization.

    Where it gets tricky is in the numbers. The current Muslim population in the US does not now pose a safety issue. In France, it does. French security officials have conceded they do not have enough personnell to track all the security leads they are given. This is simply a function of the number of people they need to track, versus the number of people they can afford to devote to the process of intelligence gathering. Such a failure in security tracking contributed to the Paris attacks. Already a climate of fear and self-censorship pervades French society, post Charlie Hebdo. This is part of the methodology of Islamic intimidation. How many police and soldiers can the French put on the street, before they do indeed become a police state? The very real temptation is to concede to the demands of Islamic separatists, in the hope of being left in peace.

    The process can be characterized like this:
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    The trick for the US is to keep Muslim populations within the first group.

    It is possible that one day Islam will in fact be a religion of peace. Due to objective historical forces it is currently a dangerous force, and must be carefully, but intelligently, kept within bounds.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, it probably will be - but not until Sharia law has been installed.
     
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    Very sad, the women who are attacked have my sympathy and empathy.

    However I just don't think a few instances point to a massive problem.

    PC stuff like this is BLASTED in the media, the black guys getting shot is proof.

    So how do we call something an epidemic and how do we call something "just life".

    The black people being shot by cops are an example. Some people think it is absolutely horrific, which each instance is by itself, and some think it is just life.

    I guess the question is what percent of the population is doing it and what percentage we find "acceptable".

    And i only mean normal crimes that are committed every day.

    The knock out game is a perfect exqmple of the majority thinking it is "just life"
     
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    The great danger is Kristallnacht all over again, but this time it is Muslims who are going to be/ are becoming the targets. Mankind never learns. He (and she) always need a scapegoat to project their own miseries and disappointments upon.

    And instead of getting rid of the awful political class who create these situations they take the offered bait and seek blood.

    Hitler would approve.
     
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    The issue isn't that she wears it, the problem is the reaction to it from people like you. It's your reaction to it that causes the problem for both of you.
     
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    Intelligence officers whose job it is to profile the known killers find most aren't religious, don't go to Mosque, do things like by 'Islam for Dummies' on Amazon, and two of the recent ones sold the drinking establishment they owned before heading off to commit the crime.

    "Observant Muslims come to impose Sharia!!1!!1!1!!1!!11!!!1!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    Yell the dumbest turds on the planet.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I think things through in a logical and pragmatic fashion, then reach a considered opinion; you 'enemy inside' liberals just knee-jerk to a conclusion, and accuse 'people like me' of scaremongering and xenophobia. But then it's what liberals do, and I must say they're very good at it. :mrgreen:
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seeing as that's obviously aimed at me, I'd reply if only I could decipher it.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not so! The Jews were passive, productive, and civilized; we're talking here of a body of humanity who mean us ill, and have all but declared war on us.
     
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    Sly Lampost is right. Kristallnaught was the response of the Germans to the killing of a German Diplomat by a Jew. The Germans thought the same of Jews as you do of Muslims.
     
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    I don't want to appear mean but I scroll past your posts. :)
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well you shouldn't really you know - you might learn something if you read them.
     
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    Western women wearing headscarves was not a religious statement.
     
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    Sometimes is. My mother used to wear one to church. Do you condone the beating up of Jewish women for wearing wigs or of Jewish men for wearing a kippah?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Give me bloody strength!! Nobody is 'condoning' anything, only trying to rationalise why morons react to it. :wall:
     
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    You said they 'provoke' it. You have shown nothing other than condoning.
     
  21. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But it is provocative. That doesn't mean that I condone it! [​IMG] Just like all liberals, you're 'seeing' racism or xenophobia where there isn't any.
     
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    You excused the harming of the woman by saying the wearing of a headscarf is provocative.
    Anyone who finds a woman wearing a scarf provocative has serious mental health problems. See a psychiatrist before they cause you to harm people.
     
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    British or American, who gives a damn? Any man hitting a woman doesn't have he right to call himself anything other than a cowardly weakling.

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    Quit squirming; you're embarrassing the forum.
     
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    No, it's only 'provocative' if that's the mindset you want to adopt. Most normal people simply see a woman in a headscarf just like my mum used to wear-and she was a Polish Catholic. Was she being provocative enough for someone to smash her face in?

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    Are you easily threatened by strong and resourceful women?
     
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    You see, this is what you spectacularly fail to understand - it's the symbolism of the outfits. I predict that one day, when you realise you are the only European in wherever it is you live in Scotland, you'll change your tune; but of course by then it'll be too late to do anything about it.

    Incidentally I won't complain about your snidey insinuation that I have a mental health problem, but I will say that you're one of the 'useful idiots' which every western country including Scotland is cursed with.
     

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