WISE Founder Teaches Muslim Women Self Defense To Protect Against Hate Crimes

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't change the fact that you are doing what you accuse the other poster of doing. Except you couldn't find any such website showing Americans, so you take a video of a Brit and attribute his motives to Americans. Have you found an actual example yet?
     
  2. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    O.k., let's clear up a misunderstanding:
    I thought a hijab was the black body veiling. You meant just a lousy headscarf. What is the argument about that? Even the Queen of England wears headscarves on occasion.
    From now on I'll be the smart kid on the block, because I now know there is a huge difference between a hijab and a burqa!
    Sorry, I got you all riled up for nothing.
     
  3. Sane Centrist

    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    First, can you please stop pulling out this tired line about "doing what you accuse the other poster/s of doing" nonsense because it's really old, it's really tired, and it's beyond pathetic.

    It's the equivalent to when children say to each other "I know you are but what am I".

    Please stop, and please get some new material.

    I guess you glossed over this line from my first post huh???

    "That's right, although this video below is from London, "this", and similar things like it is happening so much in "our" country, that these women now have to take self defense classes where in the past I'm sure it was the furthest thing from their minds."

    The key word here would be "similar" Sparky, but don't worry, I'm going to hold your hand and get you through this somehow.

    This I'm absolutely loving...............

    Not only did I present you with a video of what your asking for here, but I also reminded you 2 or 3 times to look at post #27 where I originally put it, but no worries, look below.............

    [video=youtube;BoT2kNWqRLM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoT2kNWqRLM[/video]

    Are you on drugs or crystal meth or super strong weed or what because you seem to have a very hard time following directions, and keeping on track.

    Be forewarned Dixon, if you write me back again asking me to show you a video of a female American Muslim being harassed or attacked (in this country) after I have multiple times I'm going to dedicate the rest of the week into focusing all of my attention on slamming you relentlessly..............

    Now leave it alone......
     
  4. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    And its still the truth

    I saw it. A foreigner speaking a foreign language attacked because she is a foreigner speaking a foreign language. Muslim women are less likely to be attacked in the US than they are in most European nations. And less so than in Muslim nations. Jews are victims of hate crimes more frequently than Muslims in the US.
     
  5. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Bavarians at any time could become a hostile group, IF some crazy propaganda decided to brand them as such. You haven't seen my husband yet in his "Lederhosen" and "Tirolerhut"!!
    http://www.dw.com/en/bavarian-export/av-17085945
    That is o.k. with me - I don't care what they wear.
    Good Grief! I had no idea Islamophobia is that bad in the USA. Sure, close your borders, but at the same time you should fix their countries and make them livable again. That is the least you owe them!
    May I ask one question? WHY did you destroy their countries in the first place?
     
  6. Sane Centrist

    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    I tried to do some research to see if Mrs. Jama (the woman that was attacked at Applebee's) is a naturalized citizen but I couldn't find anything so I don't know if she's applied for that or what, but she is here legally on a permanent green card, and she's been here for close to 20 years.

    Here's what I do know, despite your comments about who's safest where, and blah, blah, blah - which has nothing to do with this thread by the way.

    This woman was sitting in a restaurant minding her business not causing any trouble talking quietly to her family members.

    A women sitting within ear shot heard her, and became offended because she wasn't speaking English.

    Asma explained to her that she can speak English perfectly (which she can) and she does speak English everywhere she needs to, and that she would be more than happy to speak English with her - except at that moment she was out with her family, and chose to speak in their native tongue. (which millions of people in this country do, everyday)

    Something tells me if Asma was an Italian woman was speaking Italian the woman that committed the assault would have never uttered a word.

    The woman became extremely agitated, lost control of her emotions, and allowed her "true feelings" to be unleashed. She smashed a large, glass, beer mug in this woman's face, and damn near disfigured it.

    Why.......because she saw a Muslim woman, heard her speaking an African dialect (not even Arabic) and lost her Godamn mind.

    I watched the entire interview, and the woman is psychologically f*cked up to this day, and it will take her a very long time to recover from the emotional scars.

    The three young Muslim girls on the NJ Path train that were verbally assaulted & spit on by a 62 year man will also take a long time to heal emotionally.

    The girl in London was beyond devastated when she was damn near killed by being knocked to the ground, and it took her an extremely long time to recover emotionally.

    Here's her follow up story:
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-21571440

    Dixon..........there are people in this world that call themselves Muslims that have hurt people in this country. (fair enough)

    Anger over what they did is fair & reasonable. These animals have killed people by blowing them up, shooting them, and beheading them, but "NOT" these women that have been verbally & physically attacked. (not one of them)

    This country that we live in has always been better than what it currently is, and we have always been so much better than what we currently are.

    Throughout all of this I don't remember seeing or reading anything from you yet, where you have expressed any sorrow for any of these women.

    This story about these Muslim women "in our country" was the focus, not what's happening to Muslim women in other countries. All I wanted to do here was to draw attention to this, and get people's opinions on it.

    Yes, it bothers me tremendously that these women (any women from any group) would feel the need or urgency to take up self defense classes because of a spike or rise in hate crimes against them.

    If that doesn't bother you regardless of who they are or who they pray to - that's a problem.

    All I've seen you do is attack me by calling me some type of reversed bigot which makes no sense, and give me excuses & stats. I truly don't see how I fall into that category by simply posting a story about something that's bothering me, but maybe you could elaborate, and explain it further.

    I'll ask you this one last question, and I'll leave it alone.

    What went through you when you saw the girl in England being knocked down to the ground? (if you watched it)

    Were you shocked, did you feel bad, did you feel anything, did you think she deserved it, were you immediately struck with anger over the senselessness of it?

    Her name is Daniella Montieth, she was 16 years old at the time of the attack, and she stands at a whopping 5'4" tall. The attacker was 34 years old, and much larger than her.

    I really need to know so that I can know exactly what type of person I'm conversing with.

    Balls in your court...................
     
  7. JakeJ

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    Do you actually thing that truth matters to that member? Get real. Truth is most irrelevant now. Its just all about slogans.

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    True. Jews are still the most frequent victims of hate crimes. But you will NEVER hear this in the media. Never.
     
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    Maybe the people in the UK who were targeted and beheaded by Muslims should take self-defense.

    Oh, wait. They can't. Because they were beheaded.
     
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    This thread is yet one more example of the left taking minority on minority violence and blaming it on the white man.


    (Let's not forget the little spin :spin: the media tried to put on the Zimmerman incident)
     
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    It's traditional attire, but that doesn't really matter. They are free to dress the way they want and it's none of your business.
     
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    The OP is obviously connected to CAIR, and is pushing Muslim propaganda on this forum non-stop.

    Give it a rest. We don't care. :)
     
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    Just wondering what kind of self-defense classes would have helped her?
     
  13. truth and justice

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    Do you ever bother to read through a thread, you know, this thread that actually has examples that you requested or do you just skip to the end and robotically write trash/

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    Try reading through a thread - it's not hard, it takes a few minutes!

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    And here is your modul Operandi. "A competition to see who are victimised the most" Do you have an inferiority complex? How cmany Jews were murdered last year in the US because of their religion?

    BTW, still waiting for your proof that, your quote " There is no violent Islamophobia problem". which you wrote in a thread that documented in the OP the killing and attempted murders of several Muslims because of their religion! :roll:
     
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    Sane Centrist:

    "The Egyptian-American Queens native, is pursuing a master's degree in public policy at the Harvard Kennedy School, but has taken her classes on the road to places like Washington, D.C., Dublin and Madrid."


    I absolutely agree with you, Zorroaster. It is interesting how many of these scarved women are in training to become leaders in OUR Western society, even as they demonstrate for all to see their rejection of the West. Anyone that has witnessed at close range the haughty arrogance that often accompanies the wearing of these scarves in the West already knows what to expect from them in the future,
     
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    Well given that it would seem Muslim women in the States are in danger of aggressive misogynists let's hope the classes are good and do not take long to learn. They need to learn first of all to disable the misogynist male and then to give him something which will disable him for several minutes while they make it to safety. As women they probably also need to break through the psychological barrier which stops them from hurting others as clearly if that is what they need to do for their safety then that is what they should learn to do. The best thing they can do is become experts. That will soon put the bullies off attacking them!
     
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    Making yourself look the fool as I have addressed the topic hours ago. Try reading the thread.
     
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    No, the article didn't mention a thing about being motivated by her Islamic faith. You imagined that part because it fits so well with your agenda. Rest of the above and below tripe is all irrelevant to my point.
     
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    There is nothing to worry about folks, is just a tradition
     
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    The question ought to be, if religious persecution or anti-Semitism is being implied, is How did their murderers know they were Jews. Answer - because they flaunted it.
     
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    They just lurve their guns, and using them to shed blood don't they. Africans are just the same.
     
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    If the fundamentalists actually do succeed in dominating the world, it'd be interesting to see if they do revert to the 7th Century, or would miss their technology too much to abandon it. My guess is the latter!
     
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    DUH! I know! :roll: But to wear it is to invite unwanted attention, don't you agree? 'none of your business' :wall: - Jesus these bloody liberals are something else!!
     
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    Sickening..
     
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    Recently here a Hindu woman was jostled and abused on a train because some bloody moron mistook her for a Muslim. Maybe Hindu women need not 'dress like that' also.
     
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    The same premise applies to all religious garb worn in public places. I mean, when I'm out and about - which is a lot - nobody would know what religion I am (if I were religious - which I certainly am not: a couple of Mormons stopped me a while ago and asked 'Have you prayed today?' :roll: Quoth I, 'No, because I'm the devil incarnate. And I don't like being solicited by wackos. So excuse me if I tarry no longer - have a crap day.' (I didn't because I'm not as fast on my feet with instant repartee as I used to be, but I wish I had!) Incidentally check this out . . . read the List entry

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_new_religious_movements

    There are a lot more religious wackos out there than I feared! [​IMG] [​IMG]
     

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