Would you vote to impeach? Would you to remove?

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  1. PrincipleInvestment

    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

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    The SC and IC can recommend impeachment at will. No one has done so. The TRUTH is that Dems only hope rests with Mueller's WIDE purview will uncover some financial violation in Trumps past. Schiff, who claims to have "seen evidence of collusion". He hasn't drafted articles of impeachment though? :confuse:
     
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    I oppose impeaching the vulgar entity as a matter of pragmatism in the interests of the nation. The tawdry cult figure, mired in multiple scandals, will be rendered even more impotent after Americans express themselves at the polls in November, and allowing him to languish until 2020 is far preferable to replacing him with the Ayatollah whose extremist agenda will be furthered by his far greater ability to conspire with radicals in Congress.

    An ineffectual cry baby narcissist may be a far, far greater vexation to the spirit, but the substantive threat to America is from the lurking, self-righteous theocrat.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I find it disingenuous that the TrumpHumpers expect me to disregard Trumps lies, Cheating, and generally hateful tone for the "Good of the Country" while disregarding my reasons for NOT considering it good for my country.
     
  4. Hoosier8

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    Poor feller. Make America Great is so hateful.
     
  5. RodB

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    You can read the Declaration of Independence to get a feel of what the founders and framers thought about England's system of justice. "Abuse of power" can be interpreted miles wide. The criteria for impeachment in England was primarily a key element in trying to overthrow the monarchy, and related to our use of impeachment only in the current situation by the people trying to overthrow the presidency.

    The key phrase here is "abuse or violation of the public trust." Hamilton and Madison did not have near the loose definition of abuse in mind that you have.

    The constitutional impeachment criteria is quite different -- "good behavior" -- than it is for the president and executive officers. I must admit that I did not know senators (or congressmen) were subject to impeachment. I know about expulsion, but not impeachment (though the difference seems slight.)
     
  6. Lesh

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    I don't agree but you SHOULD realize that the whole kerfuffle surrounding the GOP attack on Clinton revolved around exactly THAT?

    A real estate deal from years before he was President?
     
  7. Lesh

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    Your interpretation of what MAGA means is somewhat different than normal people.

    Your interpretation has a lot more to do with ethnicity and partisan politics...
     
  8. Hoosier8

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    You mean your interpretation does. Projection again.
     
  9. Lesh

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    My interpretation of making this country great (not again because it has always been great...and that alone reveals your issues) has ZERO to do with politics or ethnicity.

    I want jobs, education, health care, jobs,....and less of this partisan screaming
     
  10. Hoosier8

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    And you are getting that regardless of color but here you are whining about it.
     
  11. Lesh

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    The "again" part of MAGA shows that there is "something" that you have issue with. What might that be?

    8 years of a Democratic Administration?
     
  12. Lesh

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    Pardon me. I happen to think racism and bigotry is ...ya know...bad?

    It's not my end all and be all.
     
  13. Hoosier8

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    Your obsession with it regardless of the facts is fruitless.
     
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    Interesting that when discussing what MAGA means you go right to "color" though
     
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    Let me remind you what MY interpretation of making America Great means.

    Note that ethnicity is not in that...and other than ending the partisan screaming...neither is politics
     
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    Don’t worry, we know what you meant.

     
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    Of course the Clinton independent prosecutor investigation was predicated on an actual known crime. Night and day difference with Mueller's investigation.
     
  18. JakeStarkey

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    The factual objective evaluation of the evidence against Trump et al (the pleas, the indictments and convictions, and the FISA court warrants) easily wafts the pro-Trump smoke screens away.

    You, One Mind and opinion, are not privileged any more than me. You will wait on Mueller's report. That RodB says there is no evidence is risible.
     
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    No, they are not, and you know it. (so does Trump).
     
  20. Mr_Truth

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    Deluded right wingers wanted to impeach Obama even before he was sworn into office.

    Since such deluded people can have those standards without objection from anyone, then nobody should object when we patriots demand the impeachment of liar Trump.

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    Get that fat POS out of the White Wash House, now!
     
  21. TomFitz

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    What nonsense.

    There is little rational to the Trump apology effort. The current memes being promoted by the White House and its political allies are nonsense and smoke screens. No matter how loud Guliani, DiGenova or Toensing shout it, no President is above the law, even one who clearly thinks he is.

    The public record itself is damning. It may not be enough to build a case in court, which is not the real issue in an impeachment (if there is one). Every revalation in the Trump Russia scandal has advanced the increasing evidence that Trump and/or his allies did collude and coordinate their efforts with agents of a hostile foreign power with the intention of installing a regieme sympathetic to that power's intrests in the White House.

    NOTHING in the year and a half of revalations and confirmations has refuted that notion in any way.

    Instead, the White House and its defenders have tried to deligitimize the investgation by attacking American political institutions (part of the Russian objective), the parties involved, and hide or destroy evidence. Every single one of them has lied about their activites including Trump.
     
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    Ok, I'll bite. How many are registered democrats, how many donated to Hillary, how many are Republicans, how many donated to Trump?
     
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    There is zero evidence of a reason to impeach.
     
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    I'm pretty sure the swampers hold that kind of thing close to the vest.

    And in a lot of states they don't register you to a party, they just register you to vote.
     

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