Russia tells White House it will not return Crimea to Ukraine !

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  1. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Texas became a sovereign nation in 1836, the Republic of Texas.

    Texas didn't become a state and part of the United States until 1845.
     
  2. Durandal

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    They all form a kind of community, don't they? These numerous alternative reality, fake news sites and YouTube channels, and the hordes of gullible and paranoid people who read, watch and share them via social media and forums. With all that and Google there to turn up all sorts of kooky results for those who go searching for relevant topics, it's no wonder.
     
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    Yes, I am aware of that. But it was still stolen by the US. If any "agreement" was made it was by way of a severed horses head in someone's bed.
     
  4. Destroyer of illusions

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    I take the information from the Western media.
     
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    No. When we are talking about the Crimea.

    Of course New York also will become part of Russia. As a compensation.

    I am glad that you know about the existence of the Bering Strait .... Such knowledge - a rarity among American politicians .... For example US senators are more worried about dictator Aibolit in Limpopo country.
     
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    Why not? I'm sure they'd love to hear your hilarious story about Russia discovering New York.

    Of course it won't, because the Ulus of Jochi is being returned to Mongolia.
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    Why only the USSR? Russia will be at the borders of the Russian Empire. This means that in part of Russia must enter not only the countries of the USSR, but also Poland, Finland,.... Alaska, California, Hawaii... and other areas. It is obvious.

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    On the shore of the North Sea is a small German town of Jever, which brewed beer tart Jever Pilsener. This beer must be the inscription "Made in Russia" - the fact that this city belonged to the Russian Empire. In the XVII century the town was in the possession of the Princes of Anhalt-Zerbst. To the same genus belongs and August Frederic Sofia, better known to us as the Russian Empress Catherine II. So when in 1793 died the last prince of Anhalt-Zerbst, Jever was inherited by his only sister -, Queen Catherine. The city became part of the Russian Empire.

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    What is the Ulus of Jochi?

    We'll see. Time is the most honest man.
     
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    Good luck with that.
     
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    How can you compare the psychopaths in Kiev to our Founding Fathers.. who were moral and highly brilliant men, otherwise our government would not have survived. The colonists made compromises and federated to give rights to everyone, none of them started killing to exterminate those who disagreed with them. But then again, it's traditional with Western Ukraine... WWII, the Poles and Jews come to mind.

    Anyway If the majority wanted the American installed junta in Kiev, they wouldn't have needed a coup. They would have shown their preferences at the ballot box. But they didn't now did they?

    Oh come on, this is a Nazi excuse to start killing off those who they hate and steal their lands, as well as to retain their power by changing the demographics. If Russia wanted Ukraine, it would have been in Kiev in three days.

    As for the Russians, they believe the psychological illnesses, moral and mental challenges of those from Western Ukraine is caused by a mineral deficiency in the soil... To be honest, I think they're on drugs or in the occult ...maybe both.

    Here's Poroshenko pleasing his Nazi compatriots. Compromise and federating is out of the question.


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    Ah yes. Another liberal wanting to send honorable men to their death because you are sad Crimea voted to leave Ukraine.

    Of course, you would not be joining anyone in that fight. You would watch from a safe distance.
     
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    There won't be any psychos in Kiev once the Russian influence is removed. Get Putin's tentacles out and Ukraine will have a chance to be a normal, healthy nation and state. Obviously Putler ;) would prefer that Ukraine remain a royal mess, precisely so that he can roll in with his military and "save the day". With his man in the White House, there is a greater risk of that sort of thing happening, too.

    I fear for Ukraine. They're in a dangerous position with that big, nasty bear on the border that they would like to escape. Having them in NATO would be a good start. They really should join the EU as well, provided the EU will survive its current crises.
     
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    You're stuck in a 20th-century mindset. Russia is bringing down the U.S. with information warfare - propaganda and cyber operations. It's hard to say exactly what Russia's strategic objectives are, but suffice it to say the U.S. will have imploded enough by the time Russia makes its move that we'll be in no position to oppose it.
     
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    He's joking, Russia doesn't want anymore land. More land more troubles. This is why Putin refused to accept the Donbas into the Federation, even though they were begging him. He did say he might consider a warmer climate and more sun. Hmmm, maybe that's why he's making Greek a second language. A smart man there.

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  16. Jeannette

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    Oh so Nuland didn't overthrow the legitimate government, Putin did? Interesting!

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    That it was clear — a little about the Ukrainian mentality.

    This is the Ukrainian with not washed out brain writes about a poizition of official Ukraine on the main hot questions now. I have a little simplified the text and have changed in it "we" on "Ukraine":

    // https://vk.com/wall-81196717_229152

    All of you still are surprised why Ukraine from the richest republic at the time of the USSR has rolled down to level below the majority of the poor African countries? You are surprised why the Crimea and Donbass don't want to live in such country?

    However, as has shown my communication at the western forums, similar lack of logic is characteristic also of opinion of very many western inhabitants. And they really don't see problems in the distorted outlook :-/
     
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    The US not only has agents, it has its CIA and Soros supported NGO's in every country where they want a regime change. They are interfering in the election process of dozens of countries in the world with false information and suitcases filled with dollar bills to bribe officials. Russia alone has kicked out over 150 American agents for bribery of officials etc., as well as its NGO's.

    Russia is not alone in this. So have other nations such as Hungary, Egypt, etc. The latest is Macedonia, they have even formed a group called 'Stop Soros Now'. He has 40 subversive organizations in that small country alone to overthrow the government.

    Russia has a free press, so most of the media is owned by the same 6 corporations ... For example the Moscow Times. So when Russia is accused by the Russophobes in our government of spreading propaganda, they are projecting what they themselves do.

    These Russophobes think that the American people are so stupid that they can't see through the lies of such as: The NYTimes, CNN, NBC, Washington Post, etc. They believe that if the American people are not accepting their lies, it's not because the American people caught on to them, but that Russia's propaganda and interference is outdoing their own. What an insult to the intelligence of the American people.
     
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    Clearly it wasn't legitimate if people finally stood up and deposed it.. You'll notice that it's only the Russians who are raisng a fuss about it.
     
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    Corruption has been terrible for Ukraine's economy, and the kleptocrats in Moscow would have it no other way. They don't want Ukraine to succeed except as a part of Russia.

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    It's amusing how you accuse the US of doing precisely what Russia does. Russia is not a democracy.
     
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    The translation is very difficult to understand, but there is something wrong with the W. Ukrainians. As I said I think they are either on drugs or delve in the occult since there is no logic to anything they do or say.

    To understand their mentality, when the Poles were upset about them idolizing Bandera whose organizations had committed genocide on them, (even bashing childrens heads against the wall to kill them), instead of apologizing for their past atrocities, they were furious that the Poles insulted their hero.

    In the meantime two million have flooded Poland looking for work, and yet they continuously affront them with Nazi torchlight parades.
     
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    Oh for heavens sake, are you saying that over half the country that voted for Yanukovich aren't Ukrainians, they're Russians? Sean Hannity had a map and was showing the areas the people were coming from, and they were all from Galatia. The rest of Ukraine didn't need the money that was being handed out to them by Nuland and company, they all had jobs.
     
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    Are you saying this is just a "pretend" lover's spat between good old Vlad and his White House Lap Dog?
     
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    So you are proposing that multiple independent U.S. media companies are collaborating with each other to poison our opinion of Russia. To what end? Why? What's in it for all those media companies?

    You are also proposing that one man, George Soros, is a serious threat to nation states and political enterprises. What, pray tell, is his motivation? Does he just want to add to his $25 billion fortune? Is he just a bored evil genius?

    And finally you are equating suspicion of the Russian government with fear of the Russian people. It seems that you, in fact, are the "Russophobe" since the rest of us know the difference.
     
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    They are following orders of the globalist elite. The media are owned by them.

    Think of you're walking down a street full of stores on each side of it. There's one unique store that catches your attention at the first glance because while all the others have storefronts that shows everything being sold inside, this particular one has only one figure dressed up with clothes having signs all over that read: "open society" and "democracy". The figure is standing under one single spotlight, and the rest of the store is in complete darkness.
    That store's name is The World of the Globalists, and the figure you see is George Soros himself.
     

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