UNREAL ADMISSION: Israeli Intel Chief: We Don’t Want ISIS Defeated in Syria

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  1. SamSkwamch

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    So what? That makes complete tactical sense for Isreal. As long as the Muslims are busy slaughtering eachother they aren't trying to screw with Isreal. This is nothing shocking. You fail again.
     
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    Oh, sorry, I thought Israel was our ally and that ISIS was our enemy.
     
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    Yep, it doesn't make that much sense. Look out for yourself only, whilst others (the US) support and look out for you?
    Besides, more terrorist organizations will mean more threats overall, and more "affiliation choice" for an islamist to cite when he attacks Israel.

    I'm pretty sure the muslims ISIS are slaughtering are probably the ones that wouldn't attack Israel and are more moderate.
     
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    Conspiracy theorists are liers as they always were, this "news" piece was posted only in Arab sites and Nazi sites, why ? why not in real news sites ?


    Because its another propganda that's why.....

    All these sites gave NRG the Hebrew site as source, the Nazi midgets that spend their nights going throu Israeli news to distort real news found this part of his speech :

    http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART2/788/120.html
    Translate the page yourselves if you dont belive me

    These were the only words he had to say about Da'esh in his speech, cutting his words and taking them out of context It is typical Arab propaganda, they do that for decades and distrot all our leaders words since Herzel to Ben Gurion on and on.
     
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    The sourse of the info is Al Masdar News and I can find this statement on no credible sourse. But even if it was true this is just an opinion of high rank millitary official. Not an official policy of an Israeli government.
     
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    Well according to Gilos, he indeed did say " Israel does not want the situation in Syria to end in Da'esh defeat , the Powers leaving the area and we stay with Hezbollah and Iran with better capabilities."

    So the title of this thread is correct
     
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    Read #6 , the headline is a cut and paste out of context what he really said,

    In short he said the end scenario of : ISIS defeat + powers gone + Hizbi and Iran remain but stronger = bad for Israel, not that Israel wants ISIS.
     
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    How can you understand "Israel doesnt want ISIS defeat." from what I wrote ?

    Once again, he was talking about the end scenario consisting of 3 things the results of which is a stronger Iran and Hizbi presence on land they got from ISIS, for the powers to leave the area after ISIS defeat is the risk, because Iran and Hizbullah will take over = bad for Israel. I think every normal person will understand that as Israel wants a solution to Syria that wont risk Israel (and Turkey) rather than Israel supports ISIS.
     
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    The risk to the world from ISIS is hugely greater than the risk to the world from Iran and Hizbi. With ISIS gone, Hizbi is too small to stay in Syria and Iran wont have any more influence than they had before ISIS. Iran are only there because of the ISIS threat to Iran. Israel are supporting the continuation of the war in Syria.
     
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    No one said ISIS should stay, did you read he wants ISIS to stay ?
    That's your opinion.

    That's your opinion, Iran is already in Lebanon throu Hizbulla and Yemen, they may very well stay by proxis in Syria as well.

    Again, that's your opinion,

    None of your opinions are in what the man said, his compleate sentance refered for the powers leaving right after ISIS defeat without sorting who controls the land the day after, what the OP did is cut his first words of the sentance - and you agree with it because its your OPINION, not what the man said.
     
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    For those of us reading tea leaves and connecting various dots over the last 5 years or so, it makes perfect sense.

    Reports of ISIS fighters being treated by Israeli physicians and facilities have been about for years. It's no secret that Israel and Syria have been fighting over the Golan Heights for many years. Reports here and there of Israeli officers captured and killed as they were advising ISIS troops.

    This is a candid admission that all those things are basically accurate.
     
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    Europe , Turkey, Lebanon and the US are paying for the conflict in Syria.. 1/3 of the Syrian population has left the country... and these are not the people who would attack Israel.

    - - - Updated - - -

    There hadn't been any fighting in the Golan for over 2 decades.
     
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    ISIS is the JV team remember?
     
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    I should have said "arguing" about Golan rights. My bad. No military action, just arguments.
     
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    Hmm, MEMRI is also brilliant at taking things out of context and mistranslating for purposes of pro-Israeli propaganda; the infamous 'wipe Israel off the map' Ahmadinejad speech was deliberately distorted, for example.
     
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    Let's compare them, in this case they cut his first few lines till the comma mark, what was the memri distortion ? that he said wipe off Israel instead of zionist regime ? or pages of history instead of "the map" ?
     
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    He was clearly speaking about the current regime which he described as 'Zionist'-a political entity. And, yes, the current regime is blatantly Zionist in both its philosophy and actions vis-a-vis Palestine. There is no such idiom in Farsi as "wipe off the map", and this false premise has been debunked countless times. I, for one, would be grateful for this current far-right cabal to be consigned as a nasty footnote in Israel's history, and regarded in future as a national embarrassment to be wiped off the history of Israel.
     
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    Here is the problem, what you say basicly mean is to replace the current gov, if that was preceded or followed with a support to left wingers - you'd be right, but its not, what he means is Israel today as an entity will cease to be, not Bibi and his clowns but the whole Jewish state idea, correct me if Im wrong.
     
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    Israel’s military intelligence chief has reiterated that Tel Aviv prefers the Takfiri Daesh terrorist group over the "Iran-allied" government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

    Major General Herzi Halevi expressed his concern, in a speech at the Herzliya Conference, over the losses Daesh has suffered in the past three months, stressing that Tel Aviv does not want Daesh to be defeated in the war, antiwar.com reported Tuesday.

    Halevy said the defeat of the terrorist group would put Israel “in a hard position,” adding that the Israeli regime must further support the terrorists.
    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2016/06/22/471679/Israel-Daesh-Syria-Assad
     
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    Pretty sure they are killing anyone they can. And like said the longer the Muslims are fighting eachother the better for Isreal. It makes tactical sense to not won't them to be defeated to soon. What's better then destroying your enemy? Letting your enemies destroy eachother while you kick back with a bag of popcorn.
     
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    And of course the genocide going on towards the Christians doesn't matter as well. I guess some people are just untermenchen, and aren't worthy to live now are they? Please, don't ever complain about the holocaust again... because the Nazi mentality is being matched very well today by many in Israel.
     
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    I agree with you, a change of the regime would be the end of Israel, but Israels actions today certainly isn't endearing it to many people, and with good cause.
     

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