70% Favor Voter ID Laws.

Wow......look a 5 second google search shows this on the front page. Look around and there are plenty of others.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/n...-american-liberals-worship-the-eu-superstate/

 

Let me get this straight...

A growing majority of people support gay marriage. They are waking up and rejecting homophobia.

However...

70% of people support voter IDs. They have been brainwashed by the EVIL Republicans.

Of course, public opinion is only valid when it supports your positions. Both sides are guilty of thinking that way.

 

Liberals think propaganda is one sided. To them, there's no such thing as left wing propaganda.

 

I'm willing to endorse an outreach program if it doesn't add burden to the State or Federal budgets. Europe can go Full **** Leftism since we're providing them a security blanket. Us? Not so much. We DO have to prioritize, as much as I wanna help every jock out there..

 

Supporting equal rights is good

Seeking to restrict minority rights is evil

It is what it is.....

 

As long as you cannot back up your assertion with any evidence as to who you pretend is "always telling us how we need to be more like Europe," why should I buy it?

I could as easily say that climate change deniers invariably smell terrible, and if someone challenged my assertion, rather than support it with reliable data, I could act as if everyone must know how badly they reek. All I would be doing is expressing a wildly-exaggerated aspersion that I would not be able to sustain if asked to do so.

If you can explain who you are referring to and what they are saying when you claim, "Liberals are always telling us how we need to be more like Europe," you can; if you can't you can't.

Who are your "Liberals" and why can't you document what you insist they are "always telling us"? Surely, whoever they might be, if "they" are "always" saying something, instances that you could cite must abound. Yet you cannot point to any?

 

Can anyone find a legitimate poll that supports the 70% contention. Without an honest poll it is hard to discuss majority opinion on this matter.

 

We may be on a slippery slope toward the State demanding that every American must be able to produce a national identity card at any time for any reason, a libertarian's nightmare.

If the additional bureaucracy does not go beyond flashing a simple picture ID - whether real or easily faked - at a poll nanny, it's simply a feeble pretext for voter suppression that will only disenfranchise a small number of poor and elderly who are already largely disenfranchised. If we get lucky, it may even discourage a few fat cats with multiple residences from voting in more than one district just for the fun of it.

Is there a problem with elections being perverted by bogus votes? Of course not. Conspiracies of coordinated impersonators in sufficient numbers to assure changes in outcomes do not exist. And small, local elections, those most vulnerable to manipulation by a handful of conspirators willing to risk fine and imprisonment, are those where they would by most conspicuous.

However, the folks who crave the imposition of additional bureaucracy before an American can exercise his constitutional right, are not logical folks. Their enthusiasm for yet another government requirement is emotional.

Once it is demonstrated that an inexpensive pic, that may bear an even a vaguer a resemblance to its bearer than do many passports and driver licenses, glimpsed by an elderly lady attempting to keep a line moving, has only nuisance value, what then?

Did the Founding Fathers proudly display their porcelain miniatures by Charles Willson Peale to be admired by a madame of the ballot box? (They certainly would have provided a more approximate similitude of their subject's resplendent physiognomy than the aforementioned registry of motor vehicles' abominations of portraiture.)

If we need to suddenly take measures to thwart a non-existent problem, one that has not existed for a couple of centuries, let's bypass the feeble pro-forma, farcical gesture and get serious: fingerprints, dna analyses, retinal scans, imbedded microchips, and an indelible bar code on every forehead that efficiently registers one's party preference. And, needless to say, the obligatory urine sample.

If paranoia demands a nefarious cabal, let's at least make it a formidable one. Evil twin Darryl pretending to be his other brother Darryl who fell down a well last week won't undo the Union.

Really.

 

Bull(*)(*)(*)(*) back at ya, sonny. Free voter IDs doesn't mean registration is free. Not by a long shot. Are you gettin' it now?

 

It takes outreach. That costs money. There are millions of people without the means to go out and get an ID.

 

In other words, you are not really willing to endorse an outreach program. How could it NOT add to budgets?

 

That is an excise
I'm sure there would be volunteers from the political parties who would go door to door.

 

A fake ID good enough to fool your typical poll nanny could not be terribly expensive.

It would be a barrier for some honest poor and elderly folks, of course, but it should pose no difficulty whatsoever for any voter impersonators.

It wouldn't alter the outcome of elections. It's just another layer of meaningless government bureaucracy, and folks seem to love meaningless government bureaucracy.



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The only people who oppose voter ID laws are people who are interested in committing fraud. Period. Anyone that tries to argue against that is only exposing their own nefarious intentions.

 

I don't understand how anyone could oppose voting ID laws. I think it's worth the time and effort to ensure that our voting process remains completely legitimate.

It must be that those who oppose this don't care if the process remains un-corruptable.

 

Who are these people who supposedly can't prove who they are? How do they get through life as it is now? How do they cash a check of any kind? How do they conduct any official business? How would they enroll into social security, Medicare/Medicaid or the affordable care act?

 

Truly awesome logic! Now let's apply that to gun control laws. Does that work for you.

 

My county is about 200 miles from end to end. What volunteers are going to drive 100+ miles each way to sign up an old geezer in a wheelchair? What family member is going to drive the geezer to the county seat to sign him up?

 

Show me one state that requires fees to register to vote.

 

Wrong again, free ID's are readily available. That being said you have no constitutional right to be coddled.

 

Like
" At present, 300 million Americans produce greenhouse gases at a per-capita rate that is more 2x that of Europe"
"Are they the 400 million folks in Western Europe who support their regulated-capitalist welfare states that achieve the highest quality of life on earth? "
".. [M]ajor drugmakers, many based in Europe, have stopped selling pentobarbital and other substances used in lethal injections to US corrections agencies because they oppose the death penalty."


Sound familar?

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A citizen has no right to be coddled and tended to by government.

 

Volunteers from the political parties, you kind of missed that point didn’t you? If that family member isn’t going to drive them, or they don’t want to go, and they can’t vote in the following election, that is 100% on them. Since you country is 200miles end to end, I’m sure they can divide it up in to more manacle sections. And the state can provide a small stripe for fuel or even use country a vehicle.

Like I said before its an excise. That is all your coming up with.

 

Voter ID existed before any state issued photo ID. A voter ID card is a lawful ID obtained by showing proof of oneself by the use of one's Birth certificate [which has no photo] and/or one's Social Security card[ which also has no photo on it].

So the "minorities can't figure out how to get one" agrument is bogus...just as the fallacious contention that photo ID is needed to prevent voter fraud.

Go huck that crap to retards.

 

That doesn't actually sound quite like an ideal way to maintain our system of democracy.