We are surely going to see a blood bath in the USA...

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  1. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It ultimatley comes down to what the American people want; not what the NRA or other gun owner associations want. I don't think most Americans want to have weapons totally elimated. Whats wrong with being able to own a shotgun or manual bolt action rifle? You can still defend yourself. Would you rather be facing the end of the barrel of an AR15 or 12 gauge double barreled shotgun??
     
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    Brilliant! So you're saying the reason the USA hasn't been invaded, is not a lack of neighbours (how many do you have again? 2?), but the 2nd.

    Riiiiiight.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    better move to Switzerland; gun ownership is mandatory and they are the ultimate capitalists.
     
  4. Hoosier8

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    After 20 years of conceal carry laws on the books in most states, show one instance of this happening.
     
  5. Leffe

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    Well we might as well allow people to carry hand grenades also then... being as 40,000 people a year are killed in car accidents.

    Also, loads of skiers are killed on the slopes, so lets allow fully automatic machine guns!

    Right?
     
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    The regularity of it happening in the US is dispropportionately out of step with the rest of the Western world.
     
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    I'm not sure what it will take for people to realize that...people will always be able to buy weapons illegally. The bad guys can not be allowed to possess the bigger firearm.
     
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    The frequency of gun nutters going nuts is increasing, this much is sure. The reaction of American's is to get a concealed licence. It's only a matter of time.
     
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    kk8 New Member Past Donor

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    I'm saying it absolutely plays a part....YES! American's are armed.
     
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    Keep the dilusions going...
     
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    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Progressive leftists....these self-described "smartest" people in the room....
    just never quite seem to grasp how Newton's Third Law applies to their interminable push to control and limit us.
     
  12. Leffe

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    No, but we understand that the NRA lobbies government and pulls the "freedom strings" of your guys. We know that the NRA represents the guns industry and not the US public.

    And finally, we know how the ability to buy guns and ammunition resulted in 12 people being murdered and 40ish being injured over the WE.
     
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    Dude comparing Your average european country to the USA is like comparing a paper clip to a ten ton I beam.

    The Average age in the US is 37. The average age in Europe is 41. Crime rates fall drastically among people older than 40. The last time I checked the CIA fact Book Germany was 90% German France ninety percent French Britian 85% British. The US isn't 85- 90% anything. We've got Some of every ethnic Group in Europe along with all their mutual antagonism. Add to that mix Africans, Latinos, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Hmong, Cambodians, Thais, Anzacs, South sea islanders and God alone knows what else living next door to each other. And you think this place should have no higher violence rates than Europe? Are you insane or just ignorant?
     
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    It's not the responsible concealed carrying people going nuts. It appears to be crazy leftists who should not be allowed anywhere near guns but somehow they are circumventing the law in order to illegally obtain them.


    That's the truth of the matter. What we should do is to ban leftists from gun ownership. They don't know how to use them, they don't respect them and they generally go crazy and hurt other people. BAN THE LEFT FROM GUN OWNERSHIP!! I wonder if i can get a bumper sticker?
     
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    The NRA endeavors to preserve my constitutionally protected rights and liberty from gun-grabbing totalitarian leftists.
    85 million lawful and law abilding gun owners prove everyday that "ability" doesn't equal murder and mahem.
     
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    There is no argument here by the Gun haters.
    Washington D.C. and Chicago where guns are banned have very high homicide rates.
    As does New York city.I realize the dopes on the left like Michael Moore will cite that
    guns used in those major urban hubs { Washington D.C.,Chicago,N.Y.C.} come from
    outside those cities in neighboring states and if there were a national weapons ban
    things like Colimbine wouldn't happen.Pardon me but wasn't it learned that
    Columbine was actually a false flag.
    Yet Moore parses words insisitng our Founders never used the word GUN in the
    2nd amendment but rather ARMS.And that couldn't some bomb be classified an
    ARMS.Like maybe a Plutomium ARMS as a handy 2nd amendment right to bear.
     
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    Oh and by the way your gun homicide rate for the US is off a lot. Of the more than 31,000 gun deaths in the US last year more than 17000 were suicides.
     
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    In other words, after 20 years and for some states, the life of the state, you cannot point to this happening once.
     
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    Gun bans do not affect suicides, only the method of suicide, that has been proven in studies. That means that of the remaining 14,000, half of which happen in the black communities, out of a population of 311,591,917, means that we have about .45 out of every 10000 in the general public, but about .25 per 10K in non black and 1.73 per 10K in the black community, almost 7 times higher. What that tells me is that gun deaths are not about guns but about culture.

    Like my comparison to New Zealand which had one mass shooting in the last 20 years. If you take the mass shootings at face value, you would think that the US is a worse place, but if you take mass shootings per capita over the last 20 years, NZ is almost double.
     
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    Hurry up folks, some foreigner is lecturing us about how we should go about things, grab your pens and pads, and pay close attention.:rolleyes:
     
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    What an incredibly spineless comment.

    If you have a gun and something like that happens, if you dont use that weapon then you are the most worthless piece of crap this planet has ever seen.

    Theres nothing honourable about being a pathetic coward.
     
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    Because, no one wants to harm us, no one can get thru our borders, and no one would be more willing to do it when American's are finally unarmed....and who's dilusional? I don't know where you are from. But, no one is forcing you to protect yourself and your family. Don't force me to not be able to...is all I'm saying. I don't really care what you do, just stay out of my business and away from my rights that's all.
     
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    I think before someone decides on concealed carry, they have to consider their strengths and weakness with eyes wide open.
     
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    oh absolutely.
     
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    Nope.

    There are already lots of CCW holders. The "blood will run the streets" bull(*)(*)(*)(*) has been dismissed time and time again.
     
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