Iran’s Rouhani warns of greater hardship than war years of 1980s

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  1. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The entire world knows Iran kept the deal, you gave it up because you want to destroy Iran. Iran is in the right. You are the ones wanting to murder Iranian children.
     
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    There never was a deal between the US and Iran.
    Iran kills it's own childrens without shedding a single tears why should we?
    If you love Iran so much, MOVE THE HELL THERE!
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have just seen American Police, five of them attacking a fairly old man and making his head bleed because he was wanting to bring food and water into the Venezuelan Embassy as the Rogue American State does not respect International Protocol re Embassies and is trying to kill the people inside by allowing them no water, food or electricity so that it can steal the Venezuelan Embassy against all International War and give it to people who are not the elected people and whose intent is to be traitors to their own people doing what is right for the United States not Venezuela.
     
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    Badaboom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No country is forced to provide for enemy foreign representative. The venezuelans are free to go back to their country as soon as they want.
     
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    I’m struggling to understand what you wrote there.
    Also, a link would be nice.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Machiavelli said make the people fear you and certainly the US has been doing this but the US is a lawless country with no respect for life which from the turn of the century has been destroying States and by that creating terrorism as Intelligence said would happen and now has just gone crazy going to war with this country one day, another the next.

    Machiavelli also said but do not make the people hate you. The US is a bigger danger to the world than Nazi Germany ever was. Soon the US will see what it has left as friends turning against it. Then this world may have some chance of building a peaceful world and dealing with the climate emergency, the biggest part caused by the US itself, a country which lacks the morals to deal with it, a Government which believes it is too late but knowing it is people who will die en mass and neo liberalism no longer can cope with many people, so they are better dead - and that includes US people. The US is out of control and has no morality.
     
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    Your hate is driving you crazy. Your post is smple minded drivel. The world is consumed by violence because of people like you spounting such propoaganda. Look sat the World, everywhere
    it is the Muslims murdering and oppressing. Iran, which you so admire, has no freedom for its citizens. Their religious police keep people in a state of ignorance and anger. They deny the
    Holocaust and blame Jews for everything. They drop homosexuals from rooftops. They crush any opposition ruthlessly and have no respect for anyone other then themselves.
     
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    What? Of course it did.
     
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    America has been the greatest source of good on the planet since the 1940s.

    Iran has been one of the greatest sources of evil during that time. The USSR was the worst followed by China
     
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    Machiavelli wrote a work of satyrical work of fiction "The Prince", not a how to book on politics.
    Do you reference the Lord of the Rings also?
     
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    No it didn't. It never was ratified by congress.
     
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    So what? It was a negotiated international agreement under UN security council resolution 2231(may have the number wrong there).

    The US was a signatory and sanctions against Iran are in violation of the security council resolution agreed to by all member states.
     
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    No, Obama was a signatory, not the USA. Until a treaty is ratified by congress it doesn't mean ****.
     
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    And the UN security council couldn't care less about congress as it concerns international law.

    Obama was reptesentative of the US government in international agreement.
     
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    Nope. You should go back to school and learn about the constitution and how the system work.
    And there isn't any international laws, only treaties and conventions, both of which are only applicable for the time they're benificiary to the nation. Once their not, they're scrapped. No country has surrendered its independence vis a vis the UN.
     
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    Of course, it did not.

    The JCPOA was never a treaty, therefore the United States of America never entered any agreement with Iran or anyone else, therefore the United States of America was never legally bound to anything or anyone.

    You can thank Barack Obama for that.

    What happened is Obama went off on his own and entered into some sort of arrangement that has been alternately referred to as a political declaration, a political agreement or a political commitment. His State Department wouldn't even characterize it as an executive agreement or even a signed document - it was some sort of political this or that. :lol:
     
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    LOL - You're just making stuff up.

    Obama didn't even represent the United States government much less the United States. At best, he represented himself and his administration, but even then his State Department refused to even say he entered an Executive Agreement, so I guess the only thing he represented was himself - and his vaporous legacy. :lol:
     
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    I ask you, did the worlde have these problems it is facing now before Israel and the US came to existence? There were few wars, Jews and Muslims lived along with each other, american indians shepherd their goats, etc.
     
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    World history... read about it and learn.

    There always been wars and outright genocide. When the european landed in america, the indians were right in the middle of a war of extermination among themselves. Sub saharan africa was busy enslaving and killing each others to sell to the arab slavers. Europe was in a perpetual state of war since the advent of civilisation up to 1945. And no, the jews and arabs weren't living peacefully. Arabs massacred jews on a regular basis and kept them as second class citizen at best.
     
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    It is true that the ME was not sectarian until Europe got started on you after WW1. Jews, Muslims and Christians had lived well together for hundreds of years. We brought you sectarianism. Mind you when did the Saud's get started? ;)
     
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    It is hard to understand why anti-Americans spend so much time on an American web site. Oh, that's right. Propaganda.
     
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    On the subject of Iran, the US shows its full breadth of inability, ignorance and arrogance.

    Yes, the regime in Iran is evil and it oppresses its people as much as possible as it use the Sharia as common law with its evil penalties. And yes, Iran also supports Hezbollah, which many (but not all) refer to as terrorists, and who in fact commit attacks. And again ... the evil mullahs once occupied the US Embassy in 1979 and held the people hostage.
    Sorry ... but so what?
    If that is the bad excuse for the actions of the Trump government and the hatred of many Americans against Iran, then the point of incompetence, ignorance and arrogance is also expanded to the point of hypocrisy for the US!

    Why? Many of the US "friends" and "allies" in the Islamic world are doing completely or largely the same thing for what you all accuse Iran ... just ... there you play the 3 monkeys with "see nothing, hear nothing and say nothing"!

    Many Stone Age Righties are here just for revenge for filling the US Embassy with the hostage-taking and Hezbollah attacks ... and of course, those mentally shrunken dinosaurs will not rest until Iran is destroyed the way Saddam was destroyed.
    May these idiots stifle their hatred and die out quickly, then the world is more peaceful!

    This Iran deal by Obama with the Europeans and Iran had only one topic, which is really important: Iran should not be able to build nuclear weapons!
    It's all about that and not about the rest of the deal ... everything else is secondary and minor relevant, but NOT PART OF THE DEAL!

    All ... except the US since Trump and of course Israel ... even the IAEO who controls the deal in Iran, certify Iran that thes fullfill100% of the deal, without any complaint!

    The US just came up with ridiculous assertions that withstood no fact-checking ... and things unrelated to the deal, e.g. the Iranian missile program.

    Then let's take Iran's missile progam ... what international law or agreement does Iran forbid it to operate such a program? There is no such rule!

    And besides, why should not Iran do the same as Saudia Arabia ... the Royal Saudi Strategic Missile Force ... with its Chinese DF-3 / CSS-2 (2,700 km range) and DF-21 / CSS -5 (1,700km range) missiles?
    And ... why is the unanswered question of whether Saudi Arabia does not already have nuclear weapons secretly by Pakistan simply kept silent and ignored by Washington?

    The answer is simple ... Iran = evil, but KSA = friend ... even though both are almost equally evil!
     
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    Indeed the world has progressed into the 21st Century, while most Muslim countries have stuck in the 7th.
     
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    Why don't you provide confirmation from an independent of "Iran's reckless and dangerous pursuit of nuclear weapons".
     
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    Iran doesn't care about trading with you. US is a rogue terrorist untrustworthy state
     
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