Bible verses that Christians ignore

No, they context.

Its atheists that pick and choose. LIke totally ignoring Jesus.

Its called wisdom, and there is no reason to follow a standard that made sense 4,000 years ago in a tribal society, when we are no longer a tribal society.

I am glad that atheists see religion as dogmatic (and criticize us for that) but, when we use reason and discernment (well, now we are picking and choosing).

Atheists certainly no how to pick and choose their sandards, funny how they never apply them to their own position?

After all atheism is not a faith - but neither is it evidenced. Guess picking and choosing isn't a religious thing alon is it?

 

So since He declined to do that, Jesus was an attention whore. Have I got that about right?

 

No, you have it wrong.

 

If one reads the scriptures with the intentions of discovering the character of Christ, one would find that He usually went off alone w/o His disciples to pray "to His Father." The few time that he prayed openly was to 'show them how to pray,' as in The Lord's Prayer to the Father.

However, one posting to this thread and using those words most likely would be the 'attention whore' that they accuse others of...

 

Well OD, I don;t know what planet you are on, but clearly calling Jesus and attention whore is nothing but logic, reason, and the result of a compassionate, and accurate assesment of the suprior morality of atheism.

Sheesh. What;s wrong with us Christians!

 

Swell, thanks for nothing.

Tram Law didn't say "keep your prayer to yourselves".

Actuall we have no idea how many times He prayed openly, because we don't have a complete record of His every word from the start of His ministry.

 

We have a record of testimonies of those who are said to have seen & known Him, that has been passed down in regards to the more important acts during His life...and you ....you have but vain, biased speculation that fits your rebellious pshaw's.

I'd say that any of your attempted 'faux nobility' as well as reason on this subject is lacking..

 

Oh, Jesus was just an attention whore - but not really, because the record is not in exacting detailed minutia of every prayer event that Jesus ever partook of - so, we'll just ignore the record that is there and its implications.

Why do atheists behave like this and consider themselves rational? Better even?

 

You ask the question which you yourself have answered many times on this forum....i.e., my attempt is: as in self-centered with a self-aggrandizing nature in justifying their biased, self-proclaimed open-mindedness of their in fact close-minded Godless rebellion.

But, I could be.........................................right....

 

Have you read 1 corinthians? Paul is going off. He is telling everyone that he expects Jesus to return in his lifetime. He talks about how slaves and women should be faithful to their masters and husbands.

The entire book of Corinthians is rather insane. Paul even tells people "Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ".

I read that as "follow me, not christ".

I have read the whole thing. Many times. Peter doesn't say anything about inner beauty. He talks about women being the weaker vessel, and that they need to adorn their spirit in the eyes of god by being meek and quiet.

Problems, actually
In one instance, there are exceptions. In the other instance there are not. The problem is a contradiction. Also, these rules only seem to apply to women.

Pardon me for applying logic. It very plainly says "every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life."

Forsake your family and land for him, receive an hundredfold (I'm assuing hundredfold what you gave up) and then on top of that, you get to live forever.

I would love to hear how you could explain that away.

 

Sorry for the delayed response. I had my computer at home unhooked over the weekend to work on some other computers.

 

And where in this thread have I done any speculating, pray tell?

 

you are just completely ignoring the OP and making a mockery of Christians by avoiding the written word on a forum and doing what you just did.

the person takes the time to write something and instead of discussing it ,you hide whilst you type...

it doesn't bode well for the modern world to act like that

 

I've never met a person who lived their life as instructed by the bible.

People ignore the parts they don't like. That is why we don't stone children to death. While the bible may command it, we don't still make people eat their own children as punishment. We also don't stone people anymore.

Why not? The bible commands it.

Also, Jesus had a LOT more than 2 commands...

 

You have speculated on how much we have of His life recorded, as too what was most important regarding the extent or being typical of His prayer life, and as a result, have dismissed Him as an attention whore' while rendering judgement upon Him...did I get all that right?!

EDIT: So then per this scripture,

John 21:25
Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.

You would need to read all 'those books' in order to rightly pronounce 'attention whore' judgement on Him..!!

 

#1 - when teh Bible is talking about diet in the time of Moses, and food technology and cleanliness has advanced - am I viiolating the Biblical teaching by acknowledging this and eating food that is now safe?

And, if you read some more, you will see that I, and others, do address the need for context and wisdom in application.

If you lifted single sentences or paragraphs out of anything and dumped it out there, you can very easily justify just about anything.

Indeed, teh willful ignoring of Jesus - who is central - seems like something anyone taking issue with people ignoring in the faith would want to take issue with?

The Bible says seek wisdom - not excuses.

 

OK expert, go ahead and list out ALL the commandments that Jesus gave.

 

No, I have merely noted that we don't have all of it recorded. That is not speculation, but rather an indisputable fact.

Not only are you not in the ballpark, you're not on the right planet.

 

Yes I have read it. Did you read my reply concerning the particular issue you put forth ? My reply was valid,true and straight from 1st Corinthians.

I can believe that but people forget what they read.

I wouldn't call an omission a contradiction but have at it. Are you really going to be that petty ? This is what I meant from expecting more from you. How about the rules only applied to women because the only ones doing the divorcing was the men ???

No ploblem... I'll get back to this.

 

No the Bible doesn't command us stoning our kids... Are you kidding me dreadpiratejaymo ?

Nothing that wasn't covered by his two commands.

 

1 Corinthians 11:1 "Follow my example, as I follow the example of ..."

And you should imitate me, just as I imitate Christ. ... He is my model in all things; and if you follow him, and follow me as far as I follow him, you will not err..


New International Version (©1984)
Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.

New Living Translation (©2007)
And you should imitate me, just as I imitate Christ.

English Standard Version (©2001)
Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ.

International Standard Version (©200
Imitate me, as I do the Messiah.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
Imitate me just as I also do The Messiah.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Imitate me as I imitate Christ.

American Standard Version
Be ye imitators of me, even as I also am of Christ.

Darby Bible Translation
Be my imitators, even as I also am of Christ.

English Revised Version
Be ye imitators of me, even as I also am of Christ.

Weymouth New Testament
Be imitators of me, in so far as I in turn am an imitator of Christ.



For studying, I like the Amplified Bible, which gives multiple translations/meanings of orig Heb/Aramic/Greek words used:

1 Corinthians 11 (Ampl)
PATTERN YOURSELVES after me [follow my example], as I imitate and follow Christ (the Messiah).

 

The Old Testament is a guidebook for Hebrews. Sometimes, lots of portions of it are taken out of context, or in a too literal way.

People read things into lots of it that aren't even there.

 

Exodus 21:15 And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death.

21:17 And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.

Pretty hard to misunderstand.

 

Who needs enemies with friends like you, huh, Margot?!

The OT contains the Laws 'of Moses' to a tribal ppl of old; specifically, Jesus referred to 'Moses allowing' divorce due to the hard-heartedness of the ppl...etc.

As a NT follower of Christ, I follow 'His' 2 Commandments....

 

Well, there is also the concept of the higher law and lower law of God - and the Jews of Old (not modern Jews BTW) were not capable of living the higher law.

I am sure all our experts knew this though