Bible verses that Christians ignore

I dont disagree with the "Spirit" behind the words, as in the seriousness or sin of NOT honoring your Mother and Father. But I take the scriptures in total, from cover-to-cover, to discern the meanings, or the will of God.

NO 'baby out with the bath water' here...

 

It is not ok to take on oath, though it happens quite frequently in the OT, and the angles in revelations swear by god.



See they couldn't even finish the book without breaking their own laws![/QUOTE]

Something to consider is a large amount of chrsitians DO NOT take the bible LITERALLY. It is used then as a book, telling the story of god and gives people some kind of sense of morality to follow however there is no strict guidelines followed. The literalists are the idiotic people, those who assume every word in the bible is 100% true and written by god when really it was written by a bunch of old dudes just trying to find their way in life. If they were 'inspired by god' thats one thing, just don't go around acting like the most revised document in HISTORY was written by him/her/it.

 

There are parts of the Bible that are literal - such as teh teaching and miracles of Jesus - and parts, particularly from teh Old Testament meant for a largely illiterate audience of a small sect (as opposed to the translated Greek documents that were meant for wide distribution using the educated langauage of the period) that are allegorical.

No historian asks you to read a document without understanding its context. Atheists ask you to do this all time - and then complain when people introduce the context to clarify the ACCURATE message.

For some reason, atheists being driven by logic and reason and clearly smarter than all the literate and educated Christians by dint of their faith alone, can't seem to grasp this point?

 

Yes, I am aware that this was the Law of Moses..

Are the verses incorrect?

 

Again.........

 

Get the chip off your shoulder.. I didn't ask you if you followed Mosaic Law... I doubt anyone did.

 

The 'chip on my shoulder, sounds more like the 'log in your eye!'

 

I was comunicating with Ashen Lady.. You jumped in rudely...

 

Simply put, what is more important, your worldly possessions or the Gospel ? (everyone's salvation)

If you were/are a believer in Jesus and the kingdom, you could break out your scales and balances and apply that logic.

 

Well, excusssssssssssssssse me!

 

Prayer would have been neither an unknown thing or a new thing to Jesus's Jewish disciples. For him to be praying in a certain place (Luke 11:1), and be asked by his disciples to teach them to pray when he finished tells me they heard this prayer. I don't think it's a stretch to believe they heard him pray often. How else to explain Jewish men who prayed according to their customs and traditions coming to realize that they knew nothing of prayer and needed to be taught? How empty their rote repetitions must have sounded to them as they heard the depth of passion in Jesus prayers, and saw the results in his ministry.

I don't know what the "attention whore" thing has morphed into, but the notion that open prayer is not biblical is preposterous.

 

Yeah, but there are too many instances where passages that are equivocal in meaning are taken in a literal sense, but actually are metaphors and vice versa.

It take a rabbi who is well studied let us mortals know exactly how to deciper such passages.

 

You mean Margot is interpreting the Bible literally?

If a well studied 'rabbi' told you, would you believe him?

Quantrill

 

Told me what???

 

I would love to read a rabbi's commentary on those two verses.

I don't see any symbolism or metaphor ...........

I would also be pretty sure that the ancient Jews didn't whack their kids.

 

You said it takes a rabbi to tell us mortals how to decipher such Bible verses. So I was asking if a rabbi or one well versed in the Scripture told you how to decipeher these Bible passages, would you believe him?

Quantrill

 

So, you are interpreting the Bible literally?

Quantrill

 

No.. not as a rule.. yet these two short verses are simple and straightforward.

What do YOU think they men?

 

Yes, you are interpreting the Bible literally. You take these verses and interpret them literally. Why?

What makes these literal and the crossing of the Red Sea not literal?

Quantrill

 

What do YOU think those two verses mean?

The Red Sea floor is a mile deep and the decent is very steep.. Parting it is impossible .. The water is either a metaphor for baptism, purification ... on leaving Egypt or emerging bondage of ignorance of God thru chaos which is what water generally represents in the Old testament.

 

Oh, so if its miraculous, then it must be a metaphor or symbolic.

Strange if God is God, then miracles should be no problem.

So you interpret the Bible literally if a miracle isn't involved. Meaning you interpret the Bible as though it were only a mans work, and not about God. Because God should have no problem parting the Red Sea.

Quantrill

 

God made the laws of the universe.. Oceans don't part, the sun doesn't stand still.. Its like claiming Pecos Bill created the Grand Canyon riding Widowmaker thru a cyclone.

 

So God can't part the Red Sea? And it must be taken as a metaphor?

Is the Bible the Word of God? Or can He write?

Quantrill

 

There are some passages that are literal and many more passages that are metaphors. I kind of take what I read with a grain of salt because I AM not a biblical scholar, far be it from me, quite au contraire, mon friere. I would never try to convince anyone that my interpretations are anything more than a guesstimate.

 

These texts are didactic literature written by ancient sages trying to teach us about God and about our relationship to God.. about redemption with mythic stories.. They are most definitely inspired.