Do you suspect that natural cures for cancer are suppressed?

I absolutely agree with you!

But if it is true that low cost trace minerals added either to fertilizer.....or to food itself could perhaps drastically reduce the incidence of cancer and other diseases.....then when an expert withholds truth on such a topic it is similar to how the "teacher" subject in the Dr. Milgram experiment zapped the "learner' subject to the point where for all the "teacher" subject knew......the learner subject might just be severely injured or even die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

 

I wonder are apricot seeds legal in your state.....and if so how much of them would be a safe and beneficial amount to eat....and how often?????!!!!!

 

So in those areas of the world where the incidence of cancer is low.........and the level of colloidal minerals in the soil seems to be exceptionally good.......that means NOTHING???????????????!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilcabamba,_Ecuador

......Now various authors.....who hold different viewpoints edit these articles and the history of this particular one is interesting ideed.....all you have to do is look at the upper right hand corner of the article and hit View History!!!!! The people who are determined to add words such as DUBIOUS.....do you think that some of them might have a good job working for a particular type of company??????!!!!!

The people who want to make this information more so well known.....do you agree with me in my suspicion that they want to see this option studied effectively and thoroughly just in case there might just be something there!!!!???????

 

No I just think that the advertising industry on TV over the last couple of decades have had more and more legislation and regulation to ensure that they are at least semi-honest - to a given value of honest anyway

Whereas youtube has the same regulation and level of truth that snake oil salesmen did

And it does not mean millions and sometimes the people selling this stuff is convinced of the "great and wonderful cure" by listening to others on you tube

 

Errrrr - do you have any idea of how Wiki works??

 

I completely agree Unifier!!!!!

 

Really smart people, most of whom are experts in the related field.....many of whom who VEHEMENTLY disagree with each other and perhaps even despise each other due to that disagreement.....submit parts of articles......which can then be disputed by another expert......the system is FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!! By looking through the history of a controversial Wikipedia article you can see the primary area of agreement.......and certain trends tend to emerge!!!!!


Here is an example of a really controversial Wikipedia article......the sentence that I bolded.....is politically HOT!!!!!!

"The corpus callosum and its relation to sex has been a subject of debate in the scientific and lay communities for over a century. Initial research in the early 20th century claimed the corpus to be different in size between men and women. That research was in turn questioned, and ultimately gave way to more advanced imaging techniques that appeared to refute earlier correlations. The new advent of physiologic based imaging has altered the paradigm dramatically, with the relationship between gender and the corpus callosum becoming a subject of increasing numbers of studies in recent years. Both neurologist Roger Gorski of the University of California at Los Angeles and author/brain surgeon Leonard Schlain, M.D. have stated that women have 30% more connections to the left and right hemispheres than men."

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Corpus_callosum&oldid=427333904

 

Hmmmm - yes you could more easily reduce the cancer rate by removing all preservatives and getting people to eat a neolithic diet low in fat and sugar - but how likely is that to happen?

 

So...........do you or do you not.........feel that legal action should NEVER be taken against......high level bureaucrats.........even if it is obvious that they are deliberately and knowingly.....withholding information that has the potential to save MILLIONS of lives?????????????????!!!!!!

 

This guy gives a figure of ONE AUSTRALIAN DOLLAR PER PERSON......PER YEAR,....to add a full spectrum of trace minerals to fertilizer!!!!!!


http://www.healthwisdom.org/aidsminera.htm

 

Absolutely bogus. We are dying of cancer because we no longer die of bubonic plague, typhus, cholera and a host of other infectious diseases in our thirties and forties. We are dying of cancer and heart disease because in the end entropy wins. And the neolithic diet was likely higher in meat than ours is. They were a lot better at hunting than farming especially after the developement of the bow and atlatl.

 

So GaryD....you are convinced that this assertion by Isaiah is ridiculous....silly.....impossible.....and implies that the being of light communicating with Isaiah had very little understanding of the genetic limitations of human beings???????!!!

Isaiah 65:20

"“Never again will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, or an old man who does not live out his years; the one who dies at a hundred will be thought a mere child; the one who fails to reach a hundred will be considered accursed.."

http://www.carbonbias.blogspot.ca/
Dogmatic Atheists Lack Mathematical Aptitude.

 

Um... ok... this thread has become a demonstration of Poe's Law now.

 

No, when they first went in looking for the error causing breast cancer, they thought it would be easy, find the defective estrogen receptor, isolate it, shut it down. Everytime researchers thought they had the problem licked, and the defect isolated, they found another defective gene or receptor contributing to the disease. Last time I heard there were seven or eight separate and specific genes or receptors that were involved in causing breast cancer. They went in looking for a specific tree to cut down, instead they found a thicket. Life ain't easy when you're dealing with a Gordian knot.

 

I think I'll trust treatments like chemotherapy...

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I think I'll trust treatments like chemotherapy...

 

The Isaiah passages assumes that we will all do what God requires of us. It doesn't happen because human beings just don't have that capacity. In order to perfectly obey God human beings would have to be both omniscient and omnipresent. We aren't so perfection is not possible on any level. And Isiaih is late bronze age not neolithic. If you want nelithic think Ici the ice man that was dug out of a glacier in italy.

 

Cancer is triggered by many things, from diet, to exposure to sun, to many other factors, some of which we have not even figured out yet. However, the central cause is still a part of our genetic code. Until we are able to find and remove that gene, cancer will happen.

 

And what is the PROOF that this actually works - so far all I have seen is speculation some vague correlations that may or may not be true and a whole lot of paranoia

Your excerpt is worse than useless and almost !@#$#!$ hilarious!!

Let us start with these unnamed "trace elements" And believe me unless you have ever known or cared for someone with "short bowel syndrome" who is on home parenteral nutrition you do not have an adequate knowledge of trace elements.

Note your article does not have references to these so called "research papers" there is no reference list. That takes it out of the world of science and into AT BEST opinion - at worst of course is a lie, deliberate and malicious for the sole sake of greed

And whether or not it is bull is simple - let us take the statement

http://www.healthwisdom.org/aidsminera.htm

And balance it up against

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenic_contamination_of_groundwater
Wah heyyyy! Yep That is one of the 92 minerals that we really need more of. Good old arsenic!!!!

Potassium can be considered a trace element in the body but please believe me I can kill someone with an overdose of potassium - and it does not take much

But this is the essence of the snake oil salesman lie - make big sweeping statements like "age old wisdom" and "natural remedy" and some of it is true, like any good lie

A good diet that has all the essential minerals and vitamins will strengthen the immune system - that is true but you will not get it by adding some snake oil mineral product to bloody crops!

 

It is more than one gene and it may be that viruses do trigger some cancers - look at Human Papilloma Virus, you know the one we are vaccinating young women and teens against? Another example of this is the facial tumour disease found in Tasmanian Devils

But some tumours arise from too many replications of the cell over a lifetime and interestingly they have found a negative correlation between Alzheimer's disease and cancer. Seems the by product of the body's ability to switch off cells too old to replicate, and which may end up cancerous, leads to dementia instead

Some bloody trade off eh??

 

Well done, but maybe sometimes it's better to not destroy these crackpots and let them destroy themselves with their stupid beliefs.

 

Yeah I know - believe me if it were just a matter of a few loons out vying each other for best Darwin award winner but it is not as simple as that

Unfortunately they take a lot of people along with them

 

At seven minutes in this film some impressive comments and graphics are shown regarding genetic code and cancer.....I would love to read some informed comments on this?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zBBfN5mQa8
Dr Burzynski movie (Full Version) .flv With Extra Burzynski Links

 

And you might just be in that segment of the population that will be helped by chemotherapy???!!!

You should probably ask your physician about MSM though....because three physicians equally as informed as your doctors wrote the book The Miracle of MSM and they found that there are a certain number of cases where cancer patients are helped by the cellular cleansing ...detoxification effect
of MSM!

www.msm-info.com/

 

Wow....GaryD....I think I owe you an apology for psychologically profiling you in a thoroughly inaccurate manner....I sure did not expect a reply along this line from you!!!!!

wow!!!!! I'm impressed!!!!!

On that note I would love to get your input on this theory:


http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...essage-gods-has-many-plans-gay-community.html

NDE message that God's has many plans for the Gay Community???



When I first read the following message I was rather puzzled!

It took me about five years to begin to understand some of the specific plans that God obviously has for the Gay Community at this critical time in history!


http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#nine
Christian Andreason:

 

Daggdag....I am extremely impressed by your signature. A few weeks ago I posted a message to the Facebook Page wall of a Canadian who is running for the leadership of our Liberal Party. She has gotten into the discussion of "supply management" which fits perfectly with the theory that adding trace minerals to the human diet somehow.....might just have a significant benefit for aging Canadians which could set the stage for an improvement in health and longevity for us baby boomers no matter where we live???!!!

https://www.facebook.com/events/544388888926627/?ref=22

Reception with Martha in Canmore.