HRW Confirms Gaza Terrorists Killed Gaza Boy Shown in Iconic Photo of Egypt’s PM

No, standard Palestinians and people like them

 

Jack' been caught making things up many times before; don't expect anything different from him this time.

 

Re the first part - Yes, you have said this before, not disputing it to be true. I believe you once even gave projections that by a given year, Germans would be effectively a minority in their own country. I had to eventually just put that one on hold, because when I mentioned it to Junobet, another German, she told me that this was a nonsense.

That is the problem with stats, I dare say she could find those which would make her position seem plausible, and I dare say you could do the same. I'd never put absolute faith in stats, you know what they say, if you torture stats enough, they will tell you whatever you want them to say. As a rule of thumb, if what a Gov wishes to show is a positive thing, then they will shape the stats to fit. They do that all the time, with unemployment figures being the best one. They understate it, by way of bending the figures to suit. They show less or more a thing, depends what result they seek. And to an extent, we are sort of beholden to that, unless one has both the means and funds, to do their own fact finding.

As to the other, don't get me wrong, I am not for denying women a termination. If the culture has never had abortion, then it works that way, but if a nation already has it, I don't think it can reinvent itself, and then ban it. Ideally, I would drive the numbers down, not by punative measures against women (which you will often see suggested on here), but through gradual change in social attitudes, to sex, sleeping around, and using protection.

As to Israel specifically, well, I do have a personal testimony, from an educated Jewish women (of about 55), who moved to Israel 30yrs ago, and whose daugher got pregnant, and went through what appeared to be a very alarming experience, and unusual, to say the least. She gives her name, as well as the names of the medics, and the name of the actual Gov minstries. Not saying it is absolute, of course, but, at the same time, I feel she merits being heard, at least.

It is relevant, since in it, she goes right into depth about the nuance of the system there, and she would know, having lived there three decades, and having had personal experience. It is visual media though, which you do not watch, therefore, no much I can do there.

Leaving that to one side, I did find this;

The Central Bureau of Statistics recently released data that showed there were 117,000 Jewish births in Israel in 2008.
The number of abortions in Israel for the same year is estimated to be over 40,000. Thus in 2008, of the approximately 160,000 pregnancies in Israel, 120,000 led to births and 40,000 (one in four) ended in abortion.

http://www.prowomanprolife.ca/2009/03/17/one-in-four-pregnancies-in-israel-ends-in-abortion/

 

Says the guy who uses Jihadwatch....

 

There's nothing wrong with Jihad watch.

 

Save for it being a disinformation source, for racists, no.

 

I find it reliable for those who want to know the truth about the Militant terrorists Muslims.

 

Good for you.

Your approval of it is duly noted.

 

Even before Saddam came to power, the Kurds regularly blew up Iraq's power stations and utility supplies in the north with obvious collateral damage. The war between Iraq and the Kurds had been ongoing for decades. However for some reason, according to the west, "terrorism" in Iraq and surrounding areas only started when Saddam was in power.

 

No one has alleged that terrorism began when saddam was in power. Got anything relevant to what you've chosen to quote and respond to.

 

A tank for a turtle?

 

Nope, a terrapin.

 

Did you know, Jihadwatch always link to their sources? Just not to upset you Jack, I do not link my stories to Jihadwatch site but to their sources, and you're never any wiser. Poor, poor Jack

 

Those shelled bastards.

Can't trust 'em ya know. I mean, I obviously only hate the radical one's, but the thing is, are they all radical terrapins? Is it really a minority? And where does the tortoise fit in?

 

It is a known hate site for racists.

It may have some links to stories, so what?

Doesn't make them any less than liars and racists.

 

So says a known Jew hater.

 

I know its late into the evening, but think Jack, think - Jihadwatch does not create stories, they re-print them from other sources, like Al Jazeira. So, you're now calling Al Jazeira a liars and racists. Very good, Jack

 

Like Al Jazeira?

Thanks for the laugh.

 

Like Al Jazeira?

Thanks for the laugh.

Meantime, back in the world of truth..

SIOA/SION/AFDI & JihadWatch’s Robert Spencer Exposed: The Facts


Robert Spencer’s pivotal role in the international anti-Muslim propaganda network has been extensively documented. In conjunction with Pamela Geller and a range of anti-Muslim allies, Spencer’s actions are continuing to escalate, particularly via his SIOA/SION/AFDI organisations. Furthermore, Spencer was one of the most heavily cited sources of “information” on Islam in the mass-murdering terrorist Anders Breivik’s manifesto; in fact, Breivik explicitly stated “About Islam, I recommend essentially everything written by Robert Spencer”. Spencer & Geller are also closely affiliated with the California-based filmmakers whose anti-Mohammad film has triggered numerous protests across the world.

It is therefore worth summarising the following facts about Robert Spencer, for the public record:

1. Robert Spencer has repeatedly made false statements about Islam and Muslims. A lengthy selection from a very long list of examples highlighting Spencer’s misinformation is available in link.

2. As a result of an interview he gave to the Washington Times in 2003, Robert Spencer is on record as publicly admitting that his actions are heavily motivated by his agenda for the dominance of the Catholic Church.

3. Considering that Pamela Geller heavily bases her claims about Islam & Muslims on Robert Spencer’s writings, it is presently unclear whether Geller is complicit in Spencer’s agenda or whether she has herself been tricked by Spencer.

4. Current official Vatican policy on Islam & Muslims is actually the complete opposite of Robert Spencer’s own claims, despite Spencer’s unilateral actions in the Catholic Church’s name.

5. Robert Spencer’s anti-Muslim propaganda is identical to the Third Reich-era Nazi Julius Streicher’s anti-Semitic propaganda.

6. As detailed in #10 of the article above, even Robert Spencer’s disingenuous argument in his own defence is identical to Julius Streicher’s statements at the time.

7. Due to the nature and horrific consequences of Julius Streicher’s propaganda, during the Nuremburg Trials the United States convicted Julius Streicher of crimes against humanity.

8. Robert Spencer is now formally allied with European neo-Nazis, and has even begun organising joint public demonstrations with them.

9. Robert Spencer is also now formally allied with the English Defence League/British Freedom Party, who are themselves now allied with the aforementioned European neo-Nazis.

http://www.loonwatch.com/2012/10/sioasionafdi-jihadwatchs-robert-spencer-exposed-the-facts/

 

racists? do they hate caucasians, negros, orientals, southasians, arboriginies? How can a site that is prejudiced against a particular religion be racist?

You are always quick to point out that jew hatred isn't racism. Why then is muslim hatred racism?

 

I agree that jihadwatch is a biased source who's credibilty is measured on a microscopic scale.
I have searched the entire HRW site, and there isn't a single statement with regard to this "story". Unless I missed it completely, in which case, I am way to lazy to read thru 15 pages of this back and forth nonsense, can somebody please provide a link to HRW that specifically refers to this?

 

Sorry Jack, these Arabic names sounds all the same to me. Al Jazeera it is

 

Have a look + decide for YOURSELF.

Read some of the facts I put up about Spencer.

Then have a look FOR YOURSELF.

Why not do that?

 

There.

That was how it began, then the Zio crew came along and began further citing and defending Jihadwatch.

The end.

Hope that helps.

 

jack, slow down there buddy. you accuse jihadwatch of being racist. I point out that this is a hate site focused on a religion and therefore cannot be racist in the same way you have argued that jew hatred isn't racist.

I am not disputing either spencer's or jihadwatch's credibility. You must have missed my other post where I mentioned that it is measured on a microscopic scale.