Is it moral for God to punish us?

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  1. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Yet he said that A & E had become like Gods in the knowing of good and evil and that is binding God to the same morality that we have.

    We have taken that initial morality and improved God quite a bit with secular law.

    You do see that our laws are way ahead of bible law. Right?

    If not, which articular law of his do you see as superior?

    Regards
    DL
     
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    The knowledge of good / evil and morality are not the same thing. Based on that, the rest of your point is null due to its false premise.
     
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    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Yes they are the same and a decent poster would have corrected the notion if he had half a brain.

    Denial without correction is for children or dummies.

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    Says you, of course.
     
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    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Always eager to discuss morals pal.

    You seem to think your theology is moral.

    Shall we look at your wife beating rules to see if they are moral?

    How about your child bride rules?

    Come and put your money where your mouth is.

    Do so after answering my other post to you on your duty and honor where the hijab or other apparel is concerned.

    That will tell me if you are worth my time.

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    DL
     
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    There's no point in discussing morals. You are speaking from a Godless position. It's like aliens debating human morality. Completely pointless.
     
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    You are the Godless one and that is why you run from such discussions and why you will not speak of a Muslim man's duty and honor to his woman.

    You are as pathetic as most Christian literalists. If you can't find an appropriate or deceptive quote, you can't think for yourself.

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    DL
     
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    Well if that is God's concept of love I believe I will abstain.
     
  9. Goomba

    Goomba Well-Known Member

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    Big difference between a perfect ENTITY and a perfect CREATION.
     
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    Well...explain it to me jibberer.......
     
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    On one hand you have a Creator, and the other a creation.

    The Creator is perfect in and of Himself. The perfect creation isn't.
     
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    pfft.....:roflol:
     
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    You havent told me what the penalty is for apostacy yet....nor have you given me precedents as I asked.....
     
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    You seriously buy this garbage?
     
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    Goomba Well-Known Member

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    Troll?
     
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    Typical of humans to believe in the whole carrot stick aspect of man made religious ideology.

    If a GOD does exist....and that is a BIG IF.....it will most likely be nothing like what has been advertised in ancient human religious text such as what is in the Bible, Koran and Tanakh.

    Perhaps a GOD does not exist....perhaps it does....but Human Religion has it VERY WRONG.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Goomba Well-Known Member

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    And how exactly do you know what God would be like?
     
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    Very easy answer: God is immoral.

    In order for god to be a moral character, free will has to exist. But neurosceince has shown that free will is an illusion. And if free will is an illusion, then god is a horrible monster (since he is torturing people who don't deserve to be tortured), and therefore god himself, is guilty of crimes against humanity and therefore god himself deserves to be punished for his own sins and maybe god himself deserves to live in hell for all eternity for the sins he has committed. if that's the case, then maybe god is actually the devil, and all christians are actually devil worshipers.

    think about that!
     
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    I don't and neither do you...neither does anyone who has ever lived or is living.

    AboveAlpha

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    If a GOD existed as advertised within ancient human religious texts then I would have to agree that such a GOD would be immoral.

    Fortunately the Universe and perhaps Multiverse cannot possibly be that screwed up!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    And yet you know for a fact that the Abrahamic religions cannot be a true representation of God.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The "God" of the Old Testament is a real ******** who was created by tyrants in order to make the gullible masses easier to fleece.
     
  22. AboveAlpha

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    I do in the same way I know that those who wrote the ancient text had no clue either.

    AboveAlpha
     
  23. Goomba

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    Who cares if their "ancient?"

    Anyway, your whole argument is based on the idea that God can't possibly be a true representation of the holy books merely because this representation does not adhere to your whims and desires.

    Non-theists always readily assume that God must fit their personal preferences.
     
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    How do you know the books are Holy?

    It would have gone a long way if the description of the creation of the Universe and Earth was accurate.

    But it's not....not even close.

    This was simply an attempt by ancient man to attempt to explain something they had absolutely no knowledge about.

    We have a much better grasp on this today.

    AboveAlpha
     
  25. Goomba

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    Because they are the encapsultion of the One God. Do you know any other books that fit this quality?

    These are books of guidance, not science.
     
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