Is it time to admit that bringing Africans to America was a mistake?

You're assuming that wealth would have been passed down.
The odds against that are very high, considering the circumstances.

No one would be millionaires.

 

How very Christian of you. Please tell us again about that moral superiority you claim to hold over everyone else.

 

I think it would be better to send all our resident Utopian political elitists to La-La Land. Each could be given a rainbow colored unicorn, an idiotic political slogan, and a hearty "a.m.f.".

 

Fascinating discussion.

I suggest you bring this up with your African American friends and get their feedback on it.

 

Slavery was a mistake.

This is an idea that I hear racists ponder all the time.

 

I think it's a bad idea. Blacks in America were born in America, they have nothing in common with blacks in Zambia or Camaroon. In fact, they'd have to (in many cases) learn another language just to get along. And who said they want to leave? I assume that as citizens of the USA they get some sort of say into whether or not they're going to have to leave, or do such rights only apply to whites born in the USA? I refuse to go back to Europe, mostly because I don't really want to move to Poland, not speaking the language or the culture and all. Kinda hard to make a life in a place you know nothing about while learning a culture and a language radically different from your own. But you aren't trying to kick me out, just the blacks. They probably feel the same way i would -- rather insulted.

So to quote my Polish ancestors (via google translate):

"Jestem Amerykaninem i nie wyjeżdżam. Ani to Afroamerykanie. Rozumiesz?"
(I'm American and I'm not leaving. Neither are African Americans. Get it?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Zambia

Who's going to vollenteer to teach the blacks who want to leave Tonga , besides the entirely different culture. Who's going to teach them how to navigate Zambian government regulations? For that matter, what makes you think that zambians want a bunch of American blacks in their country? If I can't easily assimilate into Europe, blacks can't assimilate into Africa. It's not a real serious solution.

Can we come up with a less stupid answer?

 

"Having Afro-American friends is an anti-white, anti-capitalist act" - Deathshead or whatever his name is

 

You hang out with a lot of racists ?

 

Give Blackrook time and he'll explain how "white people are superior"....because all the Doctor Whos have been white.

 

As a conservative/neoconservative you should appreciate that slavery was a practice of American Capitalism of that era. Profits for the rich were worshiped by the rank-and-file just as they are today.

Conservatives and neoconservatives have never considered the consequences of defending the rights of the very rich to exploit the very poor, but had you lived during that period, you would have condemned the abolitionists. They were the “socialists” of their day, try to take wealth from the rich (slave owners) to give to the poor (slaves’ freedom).

Now, nearly 150 years later, you are complaining about results of the capitalist system that existed back then.

How do you think the conservatives and neoconservative in the future will feel about the outsourcing, tax cuts for the very rich, low wages, and all of the other GOP programs that take from todays poor and middle class to give to the rich? The high unemployment isn’t a product of government entitlements to the impoverished, it is the consequence of jobs leaving the country, permanently. Something you right-wingers defend strongly.

The thousands of Confederate soldiers that died defending the very rich folks’ right to own slaves (the Souther lifestyle) had nothing to gain, and lost the only thing they had, their lives. You poor and middle class conservatives and neoconservative are no different, defending a lifestyle that steals from you.

 

What if I am a black person who already lives in the northeast or northwest and want to continue living there, under your plan? Tough (*)(*)(*)(*)e for me?

 

Alternately, if you want to live in a all white society, maybe you should move back to England or Germany or Ireland, or wherever YOU came from.

White America sounds more like Nazi Germany every day. Ethnic cleansing would be right up the alley of a lot of the haters in this country. And God knows, there's are lots of them...

Sadly though, living in a all white society would be boring as hell. Filthy and downright illiterate to boot. Eating mac and cheese out of dirty dishes, watching stupid reality shows in filthy underwear day in and day out. The missus, fat as hell, spitting out a baby every year like clockwork...those babies out back eating mud.... Perhaps if white folks could get past the white trash phase they seem to be eternally stuck in, clean up their front yards, put the fridge back in the kitchen and the sofa back in the living room, put on some clean underwear and some actual clothes over them, and start doing something constructive to get their minds off their own failure as a race....

Maybe they would quit blaming their sorry situation on everyone else.

 

Sorry slavery has existed for nearly as long as ther have been human beings.

Agricultural slavery existed through out the Middleast and Africa. The elite guards of one African Empire that fell to the Islamic Arabs in the 8th century consisted of a band of Eunuch archers. Slaves can and did perform tasks other than farming.

The Bab al min Dab (sp) a narrow strait between Ethiopia and the Arabian Peninsula bears that anme both because of its treacherous current sand the large number of Ethiopians carried into slavery in SAudi Arabia.

 

Supposed they want to go to Canada, Japan or some other country of their choice? Where is the money going to come from? Is it money go to the head of the family or each person in the family? Suppose you get very few takers of this offer, what would be your next plan? What about white or hispanic Americans who want to return to their countries of origin? Is it limited to only to African Americans? What about those of mixed race? What would be the litmus test to determine race? You leave a lot of unanswered questions.

 

It was a mistake to bring them here not because they are bad, as you suggest, but because they were enslaved. However, they should not be tossed out, the blacks alive today are not here of their own choice. I detect racism in the OP.

 

Not all of us are white trash.

 

Of course not. Neither am I. But there's a lot of white trash talk on these boards.....

 

Not only are you a religious zealot, you are also racist.

Be gone with you!

 

You might add to the discussion the fact that slavery was a totally conservative free-market unregulated capitalism-at-its-worst phenomenon.

And that the slaves were freed by urban Northerners who would be today's Democrats.

So stop lying about who is responsible for the end of slavery. The fact that they called themselves "Republicans" isn't relevant.

 

We tried that already...

 

Slavery has nothing to do with capitalism. You can have a free market without slavery so long as the law states that all human beings are created equal and are equal before the law.

Are you people so desperate to make capitalism out to be bad that this is what you use to do so?

 

At the end of the Civil War, Lincoln and midwestern Republicans talked a lot about sending all the formers slaves under fifty years old to Monrovia, Liberia. It could have been done. There weren't all that many slaves in the South. The US had the money to do it and waves of immigrant could fill the labor gap. But the dominant "Radicals" - mostly from New England - had their way.

If John Wilkes Booth had missed, what would history sound like?




"We tried that already..."

Taxcutter asks:
When?

 

So they're still slaves?

I agree it is ridiculous to even discuss moving an entire race, for any reason.
The black people who make the news, are not representative of "black people" as a whole.
There are plenty of terrible white people who I wouldn't want representing me.

If the OP is racist, as you and so many love to accuse... then the Mods will handle it.
So far this place seems reasonable... removing the slurs... not the opinions... prejudiced or not.

Last thing I am against is someone's free speech.

No one is forced to click on it, let alone read it.

 

How about a half million lives given to set them free. How much is that worth?

 

Interesting point the bold part, i have heard blacks on YT saying they'd love nothing more than to go home to Africa if they could afford it. Of course forced deportation is just silly talk, maybe 200 years ago it couldve been done, but not now. So maybe that should be option/ offer for black Americans, as you say some of them arent there by choice. Ticket and resettlement costs, id imagine it would have to have yearly limits to make the program affordable, but seems reasonable given the circumstances. Theres certainly going to be plenty of opportunity in Africa over the next 50-100 years as they start tapping all those resources.