ISIS threatens to topple Hamas tyrants in Gaza

Most blacks, gays & Jews are nice people not terrorists.. same as most Muslims and Christians.
BUT !!.
ALL terrorists are Arabs.

 

That is exactly the way I see it but yet the world community has not come together to squash ISIS like a bug. If enough countries allied, ISIS as a military would be decimated but sadly the ideology cannot be deleted by bullets and bombs... I wish it were that easy!

 

When the Palestinians immigrated to Europe and were united with native Jew-haters and radical left socialists in the late 70's, that was when terror became a legit weapon and self defense by a capitalist country "apartheid".

Not that it matters much, soon the BDS will lose its relevance, European market faces another crises now, Israel sells to the East now.

 

I don't care. I have no more desire to understand Islam than I do fundie religious leaders that take child brides or handle snakes.
Notice I said nothing about Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Pagans, etc.. Etc.. If differences in beliefs were ny issue, explain the inconsistency.
I hope your tolerance makes your community hospitable to Muslims. Peace out.

 

What is your opinion of Israel?
What do you think is the biggest crises the European market faces presently?

 

ISIS is generally doing the things that the US and Israeli governments would like to do (attack Iran, attack Syria, attack Hamas, etc.) but cannot do because of one reason or another. Coincidence, I'm sure.

 

Good Lord it just never surprises me what bilge people try pass off as thought process. Hezbollah, ISIL, Haas Fatah-Al Asqa Martyrs, PalestinebIntifada,Palestine Jihad,the PFLP, Al Nusra, Al Quaeda, Al Nusra, Taliban, Boca Raton, are all examples of Muslim Extremist terror cells, many in the Middle East but others operating in North, mid, East, West and South Africa, Asia, Indonesia,Indo-Pakistan, Afghanistan, The Philippines, Europe, China, Turkey,Russia. Most are Sunni but the Shiites have no shortage of them.

They come,bthey go. They constantly mutate in shape,size, purpose, location and in fact composition. They are born of alliances of extremists who form mutual targets of attack agreements on Monday and are at war with each other again by Friday. Clearly you can't keep up with this reality so you try simplify it with idiot nonsensical assumptions that have nothing to do with reality.

Israel does not benefit fro having to fight ISIS and not Hamas. What an idiot thing to state. They all want Israel wiped out. Think before you spew out nonsense. Netanyahu had an open conflict with Obama over this very issue and warned Obama not to side with either (*)(*)(*)(*)te or Sunni extremists.

Barack Hussein Obama has proven to the world he is a Muslim Brotherhood supporter and will support whatever alliance of Muslims at the moent h thinks can defeat Israel.

Think of the idiocy in your words. The fact that two men want to kill you just as badly does not mean one is less dangerous to you then the other.

Clearly logic is not your forte or reality.

The last thing you do is kill one to make it easier for the other. If anything you want them both at each other's throats and in that manner they have no time to come for you. Think before you spew nonsense.

If anything its in Israel's benefit these extremists battle each other.As long as they do that they stay away from Israel. Genius.

Isis, Hamas, Hezbollah, they are all enemies of Israel and they have carried on Muslim war and violence against themselves in various shapes and sizes along with their anti-Semitic holy war against Jews since the inception of their religion.

As quick as one is taken out another replaces it.Look around your apartment. Go on explain to people how one type of cockroach is better than another.

Genius.

 

You just have to kill all of them so the ideology stops spreading, it's a bad reality we face today.

I say kinetic rounds dropped every 6 miles over every square inch of ISIS held territory, that would be a great start.

 

I just want to counter the bilge on this thread that states ISIL did not come from the Muslim Brotherhood.

The origins of the Islamic State of Iraq and ash Sham (ISIS) is public fact.

Let's put an end to this bull that its not related to the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas.

ISIL was created and trained in 2012 by a joint Morsi- Erdogan-Hussein Obama-Muslim Brotherhood alliance that decided the Brotherhood should take over Libya and then Syria.

Obama's half brother is the number one financier of the Sudanese Muslim Brotherhood puppet state. This is why Hussein Obama the alleged Christian has never once said a word of the continuing genocide of black Christians in Sudan and sat silent as Morsi called on his people to wipe out the Coptic Christians.

It is a fact Hamas was created by the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood. In its early form it denounced any form of violence. As a result Israel worked with charities and never Hamas directly but knowing those charities were connected to the Brotherhood.Because it was non violent Israel assisted it build roads, homes, hospitals, greenhouses, mosques and Gaza citizens walked into Israel daily to work.

Assad of Syria backed a violent cell within Hamas despite Assad being Alawite and Hamas Sunni. Assad felt by backing Hamas's violent cell it would neutralize not just Israel but its other enemies Jordan and the Palestinian Authority at the time.

Hamas' Syrian cell then came to power attacking and killing thousands of Palestinians in Gaza for supporting the PA or having worked in Israel.It then blew up all the Israeli financed projects.

Hamas is and was always created by the Muslim Brotherhood as was Al Quaeda. This is why Obama openly supports Al Quaeda and Hamas and changed the political speak in Washington to avoid calling either terrorists or allowing himself to acknowledge the obvious that they are Muslims.

Isil's leader and most it its recruits were Sunnis from Al Quaeda.

Trained by Turkey and the US they were sent into Libya and deposed Ghaddafi then turned on the US openly on satellite television sodomizing the openly gay Us Ambassador as open ridicule of Hussein Obama and Clintonwho they denounced as gay.

They then were supposed to fight Assad but did not. They split from Al Quaeda because they were expected to depose Assad in Syria while at the same time their Turkish and American Muslim Brotherhood handlers placed a Shiite puppet in Iraq who began wiping out Sunnis. So they turned on Iran who moved in to assist a Shiite take over of Iraq.

The same idiot Hussein Obama told the world how Yemen was his example of how the Brotherhood would lead the Muslims into the modern age uniting Shiite and Sunni. Now look at Yemen.

Take a look. Take a good hard look.All of the Muslim Brotherhood's funded and created cells are at war with each other and the Shiites and attack Christians across Africa and Obama? Where is he?

Well he has made sure the Arab world knows he supports gay marriage further fueling their disgust with him.


To come on this board and pretend Hamas and Al Quaeda were not created by the Muslim Brotherhood is bull. Its fact. Its open public fact. The Brotherhood openly supports these groups and always has.

Hussein Obama's father is Muslim Brotherhood. He was brought up by a Muslim step father in an elite Muslim cult group in Indonesia and is a miserable failed CIA attempt to woo Muslim extremists.

The US will throw his sorry ass out and never again be used like that. He has caused untold deaths because of his asinine policies.

The leader of ISIL Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi came to power in March of 2010 and pulled it out of Al Quaeda. That is fact.

To pretend Al Quaeda was not created by the Brotherhood is a joke.

The so called Wahabis did not create Al Quaeda. Inb fact Osama bin Laden who became known as the leader of this group and others were followers of ‘Abdallah ‘Azzam a Palestinian who fled to Jordan after the Six-Day war.

Azzam was a model Muslim Brotherhood scholar and authority and obtained a doctorate in Islamic law from Cairo's Al-Azhar University in 1973.

He taught Islamic law at the University of Jordan.

He was in fact fired from that University for his involvement with the Muslim Brotherhood and moved to Saudi Arabia where, in 1981, he joined the faculty of King ‘Abd al-‘Aziz University in Jeddah.

He did not stay long and traveled to Islamabad and then to the Pakistan-Afghanistan frontier to organize the anti-Soviet jihad. Bin Laden became ‘Azzam's close ally, assisting him with finance and logistics.

So it is an absolute bold faced lie to say the creator of Al Quaeda was not from the brotherhood and had their full blessings.

To get himself to power in Egypt Morsi imported the Al Quaeda terrorist network Ansar Bayt al-Maqdis and placed it in the Sinai so it could carry out terror attacks in the Sinai region to take him back to power.

Ansar Bayt al-Maqdis was an umbrella group of 15 terrorist cells working in Gaza with al-Qaeda and Hamas an the Brotherhood directly and openly and it is for this reason ISIL is now making loud noises about Gaza.

Read Article 2 of the Hamas Charter which states it is formed from the brotherhood:

"The Islamic Resistance Movement is one of the wings of the Muslim Brothers in Palestine. The Muslim Brotherhood Movement is a world organization, the largest Islamic Movement in the modern era. It is characterized by a profound understanding, by precise notions and by a complete comprehensiveness of all concepts of Islam in all domains of life: views and beliefs, politics and economics, education and society, jurisprudence and rule, indoctrination and teaching, the arts and publications, the hidden and the evident, and all the other domains of life."


Morsi was an open ally and defender of not just Hamas but al-Qaeda leader, Ayman Zawahiri.

Morsi directed the placement of 4 terrorist training camps from Al Quaeda in the Sinai.

The Muslim Brotherhood’s international wing, provided $50 million to al-Qaeda to support the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
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This is all now public fact no one denies.

In fact the last call recorded between Muhammad Morsi and Muhammad Zawahiri took place on the dawn of June 30, 2013 at which time he asked Al Quaeda to support him against being removed as head of state.

Khairat al-Shater, the Deputy Leader of the Brotherhood, had a meeting with a delegate of jihadi fighters the day Morsi was removed requesting that Al Quaeda come to the aid of the presidency and the Brotherhood.

The cowards did not.

ISIL split from this sorry bunch because it didn't feel they were tough enough against the US and Israel and the world.

 

Thats all poppycock.

If you can actually back up your drivel with links, Id be very surprised.

Have a nice day.

 

Hehe.
Don't care for Muslims much.
At all.

 

I think anyone not living in the middle east is rather ill equipped to comment on the climate over there.
Middle East peep check in? Anyone here from the middle east??

 

Get a decent shortwave radio, anybody can hear from the middle east, it just takes the know how.

 

I think it's OK.......high prices but ppl seem to live just fine, Jerusalem is an experience , I've seen atheist tourists weep in front of religious relics, the atmosphere is special, I recommend a visit if you can spare it.

Europe radical socialists destroyed Greece and are a threat to its markets IMO, we work 9 h a day with many overtime cases, in Europe the pen drops at 16:00 , nice, I envy I admit but seems like it comes with a price.

 

Actually we attack what need to be attacked.....always have, all kinds of mysterious planes in the ME sky...

For us to support Da'esh is just crazy, for one they already attacked us on Aug 2011 from Sinai border, killing 7 civilians and wounding 29 other, they shoot rockets at us from time to time, besides we are obviously the cherry of the area for them, they must liberate the holy land.

 

But one it would seem you prefer to Assad, although Syria is now destroyed. Yes, I remember once reading a spokesman saying they weren't going for you yet. They had got control of nukes and they knew when they came for you, you would throw everything at them and so they were prepared to nuke you, full knowing that the land would be uninhabitable by anyone for a very long time....no doubt just mouthing off!!

 

They can only operate in a vacuum , in areas in chaos etc', they will never take hold of Jordan, Iraq and Syria are the limit for them but they will be very hard to pull out, they are natives after all so its not a new agenda for the area, ppl were actually dreaming about this to happen.

 

Please tell me more what you are talking about here.

 

I mean the rise of Da'esh is a romantic dream of Sunni control to many Iraqis and Syrians, how else can you explain an "army" of 800 soldiers taking hold of 1.5 million city with hardly any resistance.

 

What they were experiencing before. They do find it easier to get into and initially accepted in areas of conflict. However once people see how they live the appreciation does not usually last long.

 

Yes but its too late now, they already brainwashed the young minds, remember these are simple ppl with hardly any education, naïve minds.

I don't think they are going anywhere, I think once their leadership is dead the West will recognize them as a state to oppose the Shia, Bagdad area will be sort of an independent - puppet of Iran and the rest will be the Sunni "republic". too late to roll it back.

 

certainly the children will take it as the way to live being conditioned into it. However in Afghanistan they were very near rising against the Taliban prior to the Nato invasion.

An extreme Saudi Republic more like. Geeze would be sickening to think of a place like that being the outcome of the US invasion and the 'bringing of democracy to the middle east'.

 

Yes but they really didn't know any better, they really thought they can fix the world by offering freedom and liberty, that resulted with the absolute opposite, what's the moral of the story ? never get involved about anything anywhere ? that's Bibi's motto....

 

Bibi doesn't need to get involved. Americans have been doing his bidding just fine. Israelis just sit on the fence enjoy watching the show. The Yinon Plan is shaping up nicely. And the best of all ISIS/ISIL is playing an instrumental role in helping out Israelis achieve their objectives in the Middle East. Well done.

 

No, I don't see it that way. The war against Iraq was wrong and illegal. It was also fought when Intelligence sources had reported to the UK that the one thing which would bring Al Qaeda into Iraq was an invasion. There was nothing good or noble in the US's desire to invade. I was being sarcastic....but now I am thinking, if what you imagine is what will happen, then is it not in Israel's interest for IS to be creating this state?

It also was one devised by the neo cons many of whom are Jews and who like to create fear and turmoil (not being a Jew, being a neo con ) and by a large number of Israeli's and .........

https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/content/did-israel-lead-us-war-iraq