Islamophobia? What really are you afriad of?

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  1. Margot

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    I didn't know he was banned...
     
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    Don't follow the rules-get banned. Even simpletons like me can understand this. Why can't you?
     
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    Thank you- I make no claims to being an expert on Sharia Law but what you said reflects my understanding of how- at the time- the Koran provided legal remedies to women that didn't exist beforehand.

    "It is how it practiced which should be of concern."

    As it often is. I am just glad that in the U.S. our Constitution prevents religious law from being implemented.
     
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    I take no joy in this complete meltdown or Protectionist being banned. But this post says it all.
     
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    It also varies from family to family.. So in some families a woman might need a chaperone or escort.. and in another family a woman wouldn't dream of asking for permission.
     
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    Somewhat off topic but I watched Argo this last weekend.

    What I particularly liked about the movie was that the beginning provides perspective as to the U.S. involvement in Iran- and why the Iranian people were so upset at the U.S. for supporting the Shah.

    It also represents what I suppose to be a good representation of the revolutionary fanaticism gone out of control.

    From what I have read, in many Middle Eastern countries, the dictators would suppress all opposition- often through murder and torture- leaving the only communal meeting place the mosques, and the only leaders religious leaders.

    When a revolution finally happens, religious leaders are often the only opposition leaders that exist, and the religious fanatics are often the ones who are most willing to use violence and brutality to seize control- this is not very different from revolutions from the French Revolution to the Communist revolutions.
     
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    I think there is some truth to that......
     
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    Hahahaha.. An extremist is an extremist..
     
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    Not to mention data collected in those sorts of countries can be taken with a grain of salt. Probably far worse than anything reported. Sort like taking any stat released from China's govt as fact, when there is no way to check if anything is accurate.
     
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    I'm still waiting for Ronald to give me examples of good aspects of sharia law and why it should be forced on everyone in the US.
     
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    And so am I Jeff. Please excuse the errors in grammar, I didn't check that post prior to sending it off.
     
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    In the case of Egypt. the opposition dithered and dallied and fought amongst themselves- knowing full well, I might add, that the MB were well financed ( they tithe about 10% of their income to their organization as well as the obligatory 2.5% to religious endowments and well organized. At this point, I am not sure whom I more upset with for allowing things to get to the point that they are: the military for making a deal with the MB , the MB for doing what it does best or for the idiotic secularist who cannnot manage to get themselves organized and present the country with a leader and a viable political platform.
     
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    I am not sure on that. Based on my contact with people from many of these countries I think there is often good collection of data - but I am not sure that common definitions are being applied to the data being collected, or even whether the all data is reflecting the same thing (eg - is some o it convictions, some of it reported crimes, police reports etc ... and are some categories of offence regarded as misdemeanours in some countries, but crimes in others)
     
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    I suggest you look into what Shariah law really is cause you don't have a clue what you are talking about.


    So is the Bible for gays according to the pope himself. Shariah does not oppress women and non Muslims in any way but gives them equal protection and rights.

    AS I already pointed out, Saudi Arabia for instance has a population 1/10th that of US but the crime rate in US is almost 2,000 times that of US. Pe capita Crime rates in US is 200 times that of US.


    Pretty much the general definition of crime.


     
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    That may well be true but I have been to Saudi Arabia and live in US and I can tell you that crime in Saudi Arabia is almost non existent. In US, saying that would be nothing less than wishful thinking.
     
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    But Shariah Laws say you have to etch kills in a stone like the Mayans. For some reason this ancient form of record keeping gets mixed up, don't ask me.
     
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    since you haven't put a smiley to suggest this comment is tongue in cheek ....do you have a link to support this claim?
     
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    All the people who flame this Sharia Law thing never read Sharia Law and have little to no real concept of it's actual application to modern society in the area outside pitiful tabloid-grade posts. They have no real idea about how these people live or the context of the situation these people live in. They don't know anything about Islam, and probably not that much about Christianity either.

    Really, they should just mind their own business and ****.
     
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    We had this stupid law for muslims only here in Greece since very recently , the only one complaining was the EU , the mufti was responsible for family and inheritance laws and since the minority never complained i guess he did everything right.
    Islamophobia is a term that applies to nations that never had muslims for neighbours and didn't fought them on their pick and if you think i am wrong in this consider all the butthurt French caused to the English so they still call them names 500 years after the 100 years war is over.
     
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    Interesting article on Islamophobia.. as in follow the money.

    http://www.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/issues/2011/08/pdf/islamophobia.pdf
     
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    great stuff Margot.
     
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    I can't take credit for finding it...

    Obviously Islamophobia is very deliberate and the peanut gallery is unaware of their roles.
     
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    Ok. In Britain Sharia tribunals are permitted under English Law as voluntary arrangements in which both parties agree to arbitration. These tribunals concentrate on minor issues such as debt, inheritance disputes or family problems. AT ALL TIMES English Law is the final arbiter, and neither party is bound to accept the findings of the Sharia tribunals.

    Nobody has suggested-apart from the paranoid, ignorant and insecure right-that Sharia is going to be 'forced' on anyone, anywhere in the west. Sharia tribunals are no more damaging to the status quo than Jewish Beth Din courts which have enjoyed a presence throughout the world for centuries.

    So what, exactly, is this hysteria over Sharia all about, and why aren't we hearing the same over-emotional outpourings of outrage about Beth Din courts?
     
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    You are right but they won't listen.. they prefer to be upset and fearful.
     
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    Of course they won't listen; they hear the word 'Sharia' and all they see in their tiny minds are images of beheadings and stonings. It's ok though, and there is a positive side to their fear. They'll boost the US economy by buying more guns to protect themselves from the threat of Global Stealth Jihad!:p
     

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