Islamophobia? What really are you afriad of?

well, civilised people consider the death penalty to be an archaic brutal law, and the high rate of incarceration in the US (much higher than any other country) suggests it is not the only archaic brutal law you have.

 

Domestic abuse is a crime under Sharia.

 

That incident was attempted murder.. Don't you know anything at all?

 

Watch the Saudi newspapers.. They execute pedophiles several times a year. Protectionist doesn't know anything because he reads Robert Spencer and has never set foot in the Arab world.

 

I think it can be brutal.. The GCC has been pushing Sudan to ease up for years. I don't particularly care for beheadings either.. but we have the electric chair and lethal injection.

Living under Sharia law is not that difficult .. Unless public drunkeness or immodesty is valued or socially acceptable. You probably wouldn't notice any difference.

 

interesting post ..
and to those who oppose Sharia because it is archaic , isn't incarceration archaic ?
preventing a human from his need to live a normal life with his family and giving him an awful experience between gay people ?
in Islam there is no incarceration , and don't think SA or Iran impose it completely .. it is entirely wrong conception about these countries ..
saying (archaic) about a type of punishment is a comparative issue , don't impose your western values on the other world and accuse whomever refuse that conception of being extremist !!
why don't say ( you are archaic extremist ) to Israelis who kills children in Gaza with no mercy ?
Why don't you say so to your soldiers who uses the drones to bombard innocent women and babies ?
you are feared from Sharia because it gives the husband some sort of punishment to his wife ?
what about your (democratic) and (liberal) missiles who kills both the husband and wife , furthermore it kills their children ?!
excuse me guys who oppose Sharia law : you are some kind of hypocrites !

 

I could call you a f*cking idiot but I'd get banned. So I won't. I'll just leave it to others to form their opinions of you from your infantile posts. They speak quite eloquently...
Oh, and reading a few books written by people who hate the same people as you do, isn't making you an expert on anything. If you want to learn about Muslims and Islam then I suggest you meet a few. But you won't; you prefer to hate for the sake of having something to hate.

 

State where Robert Spencer is wrong, because almost all of what ive seen from him is supported via Islamic texts, from highly regarded Mulsim scholars, other western scholars and clerics ect. Not only that what many Muslims say and do aligns exactly with what he's talking about, actually almost all the headline media events make sense once you understand his so called misunderstanding of Islam. Do (*)(*)(*)(*)loads of Muslims read his books, do they get their misunderstanding from him, or perhaps just maybe he knows exactly what it is. He's not exactly unqualified in religious studies, he knows how to take religious doctrine in context. So rather than bag him because you dont like the message, tell us where he's wrong and we'll examine real life examples shall we?

 

Robert Spencer has NO credentials.. His education is in early Christianity... He cannot read or write Arabic. He cannot speak Arabic and he's never been to the ME.

He's a con man..

http://atlantic-right.com/2011/08/29/robert-spencer-knows-nothing/

An Islamic scholar lie the fictional Ibn Warrag?

He cherry picks scripture out of context in ways that serv his agenda. How else could this guy earn a living except to sell hatred and ignorance?

 

Well, seeing as you seem to be well-versed in Spencer's outpourings of hate, perhaps you could provide some examples of his hatred being supported by Muslim scholars. Thanks.

 

Yes i am ive read a lot of his material and funnily enough i do look for supporting evidence to see if he's full of (*)(*)(*)(*) or not. Theres plenty to support his claims, but sure ill give you some quotes from very highly regard Muslim scholars - theres no mistaking what they mean. But please since your people are so sure he has no clue give your own examples and we'll examine them, i extremely confident his work will hold up because i havent taken what he says as gospel with supporting evidence. It is supported by not only Muslim scholars but also many western ones.

Now what do the Muslim leaders say Islam is or its about

Now if you people think a fascist/ communist type set up that wishes to destroy us is freedom, tolerance and equality then theres no helping you. It doesnt get much clearer than this.

 

Hassan Al Banna was NOT Muslim scholar... and Ghadafi was an illiterate bedouin boy ..

 

What are your formal qualifications again? They're Muslim leaders, they'd have a fair idea and i gave some scholars.

 

Hitler was a 'Christian' leader. Would you call him, his policy and ideology representative of Christianity? I notice the epithet "Gott mit uns" on his belt buckle. (God is with us).http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm

 

Twenty years in the Arab world and study of Islam with a Muslim judge. Hassan Al Banna never studied Islam.. He invented his own religion.. Ghadafi was illiterate and completely unschooled.

 

Today I received a warning from submarine painter Here is a copy paste of it >>

You have received a warning at Political Forum.

Reason:
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you cannot attack a member like that
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Original Post:
http://www.politicalforum.com/281350...post1062097605
Quote Originally Posted by Margot View Post
Robert Spencer is a complete fraud and a laughing stock among the thousands of Americans who have lived and worked in the ME since 1940.

Muslim hating is big business in the USA.. and Spencer jumped on the gravy train... What else could he do for a living? Maybe he could be a mall rent-a-cop.
Well, let's see >> HA HA HA HA. 12:47 minus 12:34. It took exactly 7 minutes for one of the forum's foremost foaming-at-the -mouth Islamapologists to come storming in here (laughingly confident that we'll all believe her) to (just as I said) SILENCE THE CRITIC.

Only trouble is, this babbling Islamapologist is the one who is a complete FRAUD as 2 recent threads amply showed. She (or he) is a total laughingstock in this forum, and widely regarded as about the least credible person in the forum. We're not even sure if she (or he) really lives in Florida as she (or he) claims. I live in Florida and am knowledgable about this state and its laws, and lifestyle. She (or he) rarely ever shows any knowledge of it (in fact I see ignorance of it), and seems to know a lot about the middle eastern countries where I suspect this Islamist FRAUD really resides, and probably has never set foot in the USA. Notice the typical reference to living in the Middle East which has near nothing to do with Robert Spencer and his books, which are generally about Islamization (AKA Stealth Jihad) in the Untied States and Europe.

Likewise she (or he) has never read a single one of Robert Spencer's books, has no capability to judge them or him, and when challenged to produce a single thing that Spencer has ever said that is false, to this minute, I have never seen one item be produced (or by any of the other Islamapologist FRAUDS either). This absurd Post # 23, I'm responding to here is a perfect example of the spin-propaganda, pathetic invalidation card jibberish so common that routinely comes out of the Islamapologist propaganda mill.

And knowing that Robert Spencer is one of the most knowledgable, well-researched, well-sourced author and protectionist spokesmen in America, with 10 books written on Muslim jihad, their zeal to silence comes in here at its peak.

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha !! (Burt Reynolds laugh) Funny to watch.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/glenhsp...n/photostream/

Invalidation is hard-wired into Islamapologists !

Warnings serve as a reminder to you of the forum's rules, which you are expected to understand and follow.

All the best,
Political Forum

I cannot attack a member like that ?

OH YES I CAN !!!!!

AND I'm doing it again all over again right now. And if you don't like it, you can go (*)(*)(*)(*) in your hats. ANd where the FU-CK
is my answer to my question about what you all did with my Islamization Quiz thread that disappeared into thin air, with no explanation. In my book, SILENCE IS NOT AN EXPLANATION. So you just rip up somebody's thread and forget about it ?

Is that the kind of forum you're running here ? Should we give a FU-CK to get banned from a (*)(*)(*)(*)-ass forum that does that ? And makes you wait minutes for a post to load ? (which should take one second)

You can take your forum and all your little airhead, know-nothing Islamapologists and shove it.

All the best,
Protectionist

 

Actually I have read one of Spencer's books.. or most of one.. It really was garbage in garbage out.

But you have a real penchant for following the most extreme crackposts.

BTW.. I think its against the rules to post PMs on the board.

 

Of course your a great authority than the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood and Ghadafi.

 

"It's the final meltdown" You're leaving? Oh joy!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akjIgsxIvQ4

See you in my dust...

 

First of all you are trying to compare countries that don't compare in size. You could fit all those Muslim country into most any of our states. Second of all all those countries on the right are Muslim countries with the majority Muslim. Do you think anyone other than Muslims in those Western countries are going to obey Shariah law? I'm sure if Christians followed the Ten Commandments, crime would be almost non existent among them.

 

Actually, women were given many rights under Sharia law that they didn't have in the western world . Right to own property, the right to inherit, right to custody of children, right of divorce and the right to refuse a marriage.
the chopping off of hands for thieves is meted out to people who have robbed three or more times and no punishment is given if a man or woman is stealing to feed a family.
I would not to live under sharia law or any law related directly to religion but to say that it is brutal and oppressive as a document of law is misguided. Technically, much of sharia makes good sense. It is how it practiced which should be of concern.

 

I should be.. I was in Libya when Ghadafi came to power..

Why don't you look into some serious reading instead of Spencer's Extreme hostility and ignorance.

 

I didn't know you were also the authority on who is a 'true Muslim'.

But I do know that you have labeled all Muslims as your enemy.

Do you consider a someone as being born a Muslim or having chosen to be a Muslim?

 

I wasn't trying to get you banned. I was pointing out that your posts were personal attacks, and not on the issue.

 

Good God, man.. Arabs have been raising salukis for a thousand years or more.

Where do you come up with this crap?