Lesbian couple attacked in London

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  1. APACHERAT

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    Women, be they straight or a lesbo still have their Second Amendment rights unless they live in the totalitarian state of California.

    S&W has gone out of there way to appease women.

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    the choice is not, carry a gun or you have no right to complain about abuse
     
  3. truth and justice

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    If the 2nd amendment was in the UK constitution the chances are that the lesbians would have been shot by the thugs before they even had a chance to reach for their guns
     
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    All of my complaining of California liberals/progressives abusing my Constitutional rights seem to go unnoticed or the left just don't give a **** about the intent of the U.S. Constitution.
     
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    But they would have had a better chance being armed, and perhaps the thugs wouldn't have tried it if they knew the victims could be armed, instead of living in a nation of disarmed sheeple.
     
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    Better chance that what? 5 thugs armed versus two women armed? That argument does not work in the US going by your huge numbers killed by guns so no thanks
     
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    But the UK doesn't have a constitution.

    All they have is English Common Law and the Magna Carta.

    The U.S. Constitution is based more upon "Natural Law" (Law of Nature) than Common Law.

    When our founding fathers were writing the Constitution they has "Vattel's" sitting next to them.
     
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    Two armed women are more than a match for 5 male thugs. Guns are the great equalizer for women. Here are 561 pages of instances of armed US citizens stopping crime:

    https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/arm...ibutor=0&contentBuckets=8176&geo=#latest-news

    It has been estimated that armed US citizens every year stop about as many crimes as the police do.
     
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    No evidence?
    Almost the very 1st post in this thread assumed the attackers would be Muslim.

    To beat someone up, is not just prejudice or calling names.
    Unprovoked physical violence is usually just hatred. Most of the hatred is ingrained from being misinformed or uniformed.
     
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  10. Fred C Dobbs

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    And with good reason. However that's not what the 'no evidence' refers to. It seems you didn't read the post before responding.
    Quite true.
    Can't argue with that.
     
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    With good reason?
    And you asked for evidence most attackers of gays would be religious.

    And in today's world, which group(s) tend to be the most misinformed? Religious types. Most are stuck on some stone age books.
     
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    Perhaps you should read the posts completely before responding. It said " Most people grow out of these prejudices but sometimes governments, or those with power, condone or encourage the hatreds they grew up with", and that's what's happened with islam.
     
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    I'm asking you to back this all up you otherwise over the top rants are just nothing but Islamophobic vomit that belongs on stormfront.
     
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    You make it sound as though being Islamophobic is wrong when in fact it makes perfect sense. Neither of us can come up with anything positive about Islam, though we gave it some thought, but we can both likely come up with many, many negatives.

    Look through the thread. Pay attention or don't get involved in the debate.
     
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    A reasonable guess, given an average of five Muslim terror attacks a day. Remember the Orlando night club shooting?

    I doubt victims of Muslim violence care about such distinctions.
     
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    Islam is a negative influence. What Muslim nation should we be emulating?
     
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    If you are admitting you're Islamophobic than ...you got an irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against Islam or people who practice Islam
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Islamophobia
    We got rules on this site against discrimination champ. That's how far you be in the wrong.

    I asked you to source "Muslims are often using the same tactic as the Communists did during the Cold War when anyone speaking against was it was 'Anti Communist', as though that was a bad thing.".... and it's crickets.

    You claimed "Islam is a bad thing"... and do not seem to back this up with some source.

    The burden is on you, champ.
     
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    It isn't a phobia or irrational fear if Muslims are really killing people. Go to Saudi and preach atheism or try to open a church or gay bar there and see what happens.

    "Apologists for Islam have even sought to defend their faith from criticism by inventing a psychological disorder known as ‘Islamophobia.’” There is no such thing as Islamophobia…. It is not a form of bigotry or racism to observe that the specific tenets of the faith pose a special threat to civil society. Nor is it a sign of intolerance to notice when people are simply not being honest about what they and their co-religionists believe.”

    Sam Harris

    Call my crazy, but I'm not a fan of a belief system that promotes inbreeding, treating women as property, complete with female genital mutilation, forced marriages to underage girls, honor killings, wife beating (just like Muhammed did), and that treats 'infidels' as second class citizens. No Muslim nation has freedom of religion as we know it in the Judeo-Christian West. Islam is a retarding influence. If you disagree, which Muslim nation should we be emulating?
     
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    The Muslims themselves invented the term "islamophobia" .. they must of taken lessons from our Left leaning ilk and their Alinsky tactics.
     
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    It's called "Islamophobia" not "Muslimophobia". Can you spot the difference? Islam is anti human and an enforced ignorance on people who would otherwise be born free to live their lives in freedom.
    Are you making the claim that Islam cannot be criticized? How about other belief systems? Does that hold true for Communism? Fascism? Nazism? You be sure to share your concern with the moderators.
    I'm the source! And your responses to me are typical of the responses to anyone of the day who was 'anti communist'. Given that you don't know this suggests large gaps in your educations.
    How about this? http://166.62.117.116/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30
     
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    Right. They got it from 'Homophobia' which they reckoned would be a good propaganda tool, and it was.
     
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    Exactly. No educated, rational person would to take up residence in a Islam run country, which is why many Muslims (apart from political reasons) are fleeing to the west.
     
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    I don't buy it. Religions are the reason for most bigotry.
    As evidenced by the 1st page where most of the 1st page blamed a religion, islam. And you said with good reason.
    Perhaps you should heed your own beliefs.
    Islam is a religion, not a gov't. But some ME gov'ts use the religion to make gov't laws. As the alt right wants to do in the USA.
    Thank goodness the founders freed us from religion or we'd be just like them.
     
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    Islam is more than just a 'religion'. It is a political movement as well. As said, most people grow out of their hatreds but Islam encourages their continuation.
    That's clearly incorrect.
    No comparison at all. That same contention could be made against every western democracy but of course that never happened.
    Not likely. The Brits should be thanked for their philosophical, legal and governmental influences that creates a free people - not the Muslims.
     
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    yes, religious folks do most of the violence. Not limited to muslims.
    If not religious folks, it's alt right who hate gov't and are responsible for the most terroism in the USA as of late. And it's spreading to other nations. NZ mosque shooting? White nationaist/racists.
     

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