Michigan TEACHER won’t show Trump inaugural to students

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  1. Habana

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    It's their classroom they get to decide what to teach that day. The letter to the parents was nothing but sour grapes, the ol my side may have lost so I'm just gonna stay home. A good liberal can't just do something, they have to draw attention to what they are doing.
     
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    I don't plan to watch it but I bet they go ahead and do it anyway. Trump will be in and Obama will be out and the Earth will keep on spinning.
     
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    Telling a group of kids they cant watch something because that person might say something bad is just the way to have those same kids go to youtube to see just that...

    But its fine this teacher got national news for their political stance which is what this is all about it seems.
     
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    Yeah, this is not a very well thought out move. First of all, it is transparent. I don't believe, for one second, that he is doing it out of concern for the children hearing things they shouldn't. This is his own political preference coming out. Understood that he showed Bush's speech, but I am guessing that he personally views Trump as too much. Second, even if his concern is that Trump, in his opinion, makes inflammatory statements, I don't see that happening here. This will not be a Trump-off-the-cuff. This will be prepared and measured.
     
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    The teachers reaction seems a little over the top but then so is yours when you start bringing in terms “malpractice” and “child abuse” (misusing “child abuse” is especially distasteful as it can only serve to distract from actual abuse).

    I’m more curious as to whether it’s really normal practice for 9 year olds to be shown Presidential inauguration speeches live in school time? I’m not convinced that’s an especially good use of their time, especially given how easy it would be to view later if they really wanted. I wouldn’t even expect that speech to be especially significant, it being more celebratory and symbolic than practical. If they’re going to show school kids any political broadcasts, I’d think congressional hearings, debates and speeches about practical policy would be more important given that’s the side of politics so many people are completely ignorant of yet it is the side that is so much more important than the partisan politics and big parties.
     
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    Ok this teacher is stupid --------ed --blipper ------- but I recall 8 years ago when I was a member of a few political forums that there were stupid ------ed --blippers-- who the " Democratic Party " teachers were "using tax money" illegally by showing Obama's innaugeration in the class rooms.

    So you see there are stupid -----ed --blippers in both parties and sadly even in the do called "independent " ranks.
     
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    I've never shown an inauguration speech to my students by any president. The students always seem to end up okay anyway.
     
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    Or it could have been a general response to parents after he received a few inquiries from some of them. That's happens often in education.
     
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    Since the Adminstrators have not gotten around to closing this thread yet (the headline was deliberately altered by the OP), I just wanted to note that you're right.

    I had actually forgetten about that. But that was a popular meme with the same folks who are now fuming that we aren't all going to be standing in front of our TVs in fawning admiration.
     
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    Isn't it amazing, only you liberals seem to talk about this all the time

    The good news is, parents are upset, and another reason why Trump will be our president for the next 8 years. Democratic party has been hijacked by left wing loons, which so resembles what islamo-nazis did to the religion of islam and peaceful muslims
     
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    First- as I child, I was abused by a teacher came to realize mental abuse is every bit as damaging (and downright mean) as physical abuse. Teachers often use selfish denial as a weapon because it has great power and is easy to hide. Question: Is he behaving like a mentor concerned with helping the children in his charge, or or is he behaving like a precious snowflake throwing a temper tantrum and exploiting his students?

    Second- In his letter to parents, the teacher admits he showed his previous students the inaugurations of Bush and Obama. Why don't we consider those inaugurations an inappropriate use of student time?

    In the entire world, America is unique. We have hard fought primaries and contentious elections. But in the end, we peacefully choose a new leader and come together at the inaugeration.

    It's an excellent opportunity to teach kids about our form of government, our political process and what makes America great. No wonder so many millennials are crying and lost. They have no concept of how America functions. And this teacher is intentionally propagating the ignorance in an act of selfish hate. Defending him is unconscionable.
     
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    Yeah, I don't think there will be any hecklers at the speech, so I doubt Trump would say anything inappropriate.
     
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    As I said, I think he overreacted and is likely exploiting his position to promote a political position (though arguably so is the radio-host). I don’t think he’s necessarily exploiting his students directly, I don’t think they’ll be harmed either way and I certainly don’t consider it any kind of “abuse”.

    I do consider them inappropriate (or at least weird), especially for students as young as nine, hence the core point of my response. Showing previous ones but not Trump’s is one oddity, showing any at all is another. I’m still curious about how common or normal this would be across the country.

    No more unique than every other country in the world. America isn’t special or separate. Most democratic countries have perfectly peaceful transitions of power following contentious elections and incidents like this demonstrate that America is hardly immune from the disruptions and blips in those peaceful transitions, just like the rest of us. If anything America is struggling with much more disruption and contention following this election than is usual.

    The wider election possibly, not the inauguration speech specifically and alone (regardless who is giving it). That’s like getting the best understanding of a sporting event by just watching the prize giving ceremony at the end. I certainly think kids should receive a much better education about the political process but I don’t think this is anywhere close to the right way to achieve that.

    I’m certainly not defending him, I’m just suggesting this specific mess could be a symptom of a wider issues.
     
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    Were you as concerned about Obama smoking crack and sucking the pee pee of Larry Sinclair a long time ago, since you like going back in time?
     
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    Honest Joe - Fair enough. Cogent points. - thank you for a sincere post.

    But I do disagree on one point. I still believe in all the world, America is unique. (and Great)
    We defeated the most powerful country in the world to gain our freedom an independence.
    We built a successful nation from the "wretched refuse" of other nations.
    We survived a terrible Civil War.
    We helped save mankind from two World Wars.

    The reasons to be a proud of our nation are legion. But now we have a teacher instilling fear and suspicion in his students.
    If they were my students, you'd have to kill me to stop me from teaching how great America is.

    Everyone is free to believe whatever they want. Forcing that viewpoint on helpless children is the pinnacle of deplorable.
     
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    If I was a parent in that class I'd keep my child home that day so that they could watch it and I'd have a nice little talk with the teachers and principal.
     
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    That would be stupid. They are not the same personality types and Obama does not have an impulse control problem. Just because many trump supporters want to turn saying nasty things, petty personal attacks and chronic minority stereotyping into virtues, does not mean this teacher should celebrate and showcase them. This is a fourth grade class. They already do enough of that on the playground.

    If you wait until the next day, you can edit out any embarrassing crap and show a clip with the new president acting presidential. that is going to be rare enough in the next four years.
     
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    Good choice by this woman. You're supposed to be 17-years-old to view "R" rated material. Trumps past content and behavior go beyond R. Next thing, you'll be complaining that the schools aren't forcing children to watch X-rated movies.
     
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    As already pointed out, your title is wrong. Quote from your link " I have decided to show the inauguration of Donald Trump this Friday, but we will not view Mr. Trump's inauguration speech,” Meteyer wrote in the e-mail."

    It will be 'child abuse' to force any 9 year old to watch any president's inauguration let alone the speech.
     
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    I'll take the former over the latter. Donald Trump is a disgrace to America.

    And I don't apologize to anyone for using the R word to accurately describe Trump.
     
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    You might have a point. Maybe the teacher saw Obama's farewell speech and assumes Trump will drone on, and on, and on, saying little more than he's wonderful and everyone else sucks. I too would attempt to protect my students from that type of abuse.

    But I suspect Trump's speech will be more akin to Kennedy than Obama. The kids already have to sit through endless hours of being told they should be ashamed of our country and our history. It might be nice to expose them to a speech espousing America's Greatness.

    Perhaps this is the real reason they don't want the kids to see the speech.

    PS: 25 hours and counting..............
     
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    I'm glad the teacher announced his intentions. Parents can choose to keep their kids home so they can watch it, or record it and let the kids watch it home. But whatever. The reason I really like the announcement is because it demonstrates, yet again, the wave of educations who see it their calling to "protect" kids from anything that "might" be perceived as offensive by someone, anyone. Kidda like managing a "safe space".
     
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    I just wish progressive activists would leave children alone.
     
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    It was a Liberal instructor, so to be fair they weren't going to learn anything anyways *Shrugs*
     

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