Obama Establishes Fascism by Executive Order

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You see they will not take an oath to uphold and protect the Constitution. They will just do Ubama's bidding.

 

I believe you are correct. Attempting to "take" such powers, where no Law exists to do such, is attempting to force a Law upon our Republic from one single Branch of the Government.

We have 'checks and balances' for a reason.

 

The national defense force is called the national guard....it was created in 1903, and the SS was not national defense, they were Hitler's private guard.

 

That's not Ubama's civilian army....sorry you're wrong.

 

Whatever you want to call this, police, national guard, army or whatever they goal is protect the state and the status quo. But never the people. They are just dogs of the state.

 

We had one under bush as wel......He was the one who implemented the redention policy, where anyone who is "suspected" of terrorism, even US citizens, can be arrested without charge, and detained indefinately without trial for as long as the government wants........Pretty much how all of the facist dictators did to their political rivals back in europe.

 

Bush was bad. Obama continued the patriot act and added the NDAA and this. Obama also has had US citizens killed without due process.

 

They are directed individually by the States, most of the time...

 

And US citizens arrested without trial for more than 1 year, yet

 

What I find astonishing is the absurd alarmism and lack of reading comprehension over this EO. But I credit you for posting the text itself rather than some bogus summary of it.

 

And then you went and posted this.

 

Any citzen who openly joins an enemy group should no longer be considered an citzen....They are a traitor and should be killed just like any other enemy conbatant....

 

What is it with some conservatives and reading comprehension?

If you don't want people to think conservatives are dumb, then don't do stupid things like getting paranoid alarmist about a bureaucratic update.

But don't take my word for it. Here is a (relatively) sane conservative explaining what's going on in detail.

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/03/...redness-executive-order-power-grab-or-update/

The executive summary for people too lazy to read the link: This is merely an update of an existing EO -- an EO that has been updated by multiple presidents, including twice by George Bush. 90% of the language is boilerplate copied from the previous orders. All this does is change how some authority is delegated to take into account that the government structure has changed -- notably, there was no Dept. of Homeland Security when this EO was last updated.

Now, contrast that to the insane, unsubstantiated, uninformed, ignorant mouth-foaming of an unhinged conservative:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/...hing-even-you-wo-congressional-oversight.html

Now, note which analysis most closely matches the opinions expressed by conservatives in this thread.

Now, decide whether said conservatives should ever be taken seriously on anything again.

 

They are however still legally a citizen. The law does not say that you lose citizenship if you are an enemy.

 

At face value this looks like a good thing but my level of faith in our government and lack of trust of the current administration cause me to be a bit worried about the reasoning behind this.

 

You can lose your citizenship by taking a position against the US in a war. Since this is a recognized war, anyone who takes joins the enemy side, gives up citizenship. Oringally, it was meant to be for people who join their native country's military when they were at war with the US, but it can also be used against anyone who joins an enemy

 

Nowhere in the Constitution does it state that our rights come from a maker (or diety of any kind). The preamble starts with these words

 

I'm fully aware of that article. The thing that makes this so alarming is we know of Obama's propensity to abuse his powers. To take advantage for his own purposes. To shovel money and favor to those he chooses. And he's a Marxist. Govt power is a well worn glove to him. He cannot be trusted. He just increased that power.

 

Obama is not Marxist. Crap Obama is hated by all the left of the world, how can you say that he is Marxist?

The Marxist over the world dislike Obama. All the leftists dislike Obama, and you dare to say that he is Marxist.

Is stupid call someone Marxist when all the Marxism in whole world hates Obama. And if Obama is Marxist George Bush is libertarian.

 

Before the Constitution was a "Delaration" of our intent to become "self-Governed", we call it the Declaration of Independence. The Day it was enacted is the day most American's recognize the begining of our seperate State.

In that Declaration our Founding Fathers saw fit to aknowledge that they were embarking on a certain objective. Our Constitution is the result of that objective, and it took many years to come to it as an agreed upon 'Bonding' of these individual states. But nothing in it denies the premise for and by which it was written, which is quite clearly stated in the Declaration, and is likely the reason we celebrate that day and not the day the Constituion itself was ratified.

It wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that most people don't likely know when that was...

 

This is an update of EXECUTIVE ORDER 12919 issued and signed by Clinton in 1994. Here is a link to that order The primary change in this is to include the specific authorities issued to federal units that were independent or under various other entities that were moved into the Department of Homeland Security. Very little of this new EO is any different from the older one. In fact very little is different than has existed since 1939 and the early 1950's. Compare Section 803 of the new Executive Order with Section 904 of the 1994 EO to establish this. You should also compare section 201 of the new order with section 201 of the 1994 order.

 

His background and upbringing is steeped in it. He's careful not to bring it outright, but by stealth.

 

As stated a few posts before yours...

 

Who poses that big of a threat to the Continental United States right now?

 

Most people recognize that we are far more likely to "fall from within" than to fall to anything or anyone who attempts to invade us...