Obama Establishes Fascism by Executive Order

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  1. AtsamattaU

    AtsamattaU Well-Known Member

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    Good point! Let's all sit on our fatasses and wait for a catastrophe, then we can whine about how we should have prepared for it!
     
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    Which is what the cons would be saying had bush the failure done the same thing.
    Double standard defined.
     
  3. loong

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    Trinnity,

    You will get the usual BULLSHEET Defenses from ObummerrCRAPSTER's stooges even though it is obvious and PROOF POSITIVE that the ObummerCRAPSTER is following the script provided in the following post by James Cessna outlining the classmate of Obummer's description of the POS Obummer's AGENDA:

    The ObummerCRAPSTER is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos -- thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within.Â

    My name is Wayne Allyn Root and Barack Obama is my college classmate (Columbia University, class of '83). As several columnists correctly predicted from day one, Obama is following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University. They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands. Add up the clues below. Taken individually they're alarming. Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival ... and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government. Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.

    -- Universal health care. The health care bill had very little to do with health care. It had everything to do with unionizing millions of hospital and health care workers, as well as adding 15,000 to 20,000 new IRS agents (who will join government employee unions). Obama doesn't care that giving free health care to 30 million Americans will add trillions to the national debt. What he does care about is that it cements the dependence of those 30 million voters to Democrats and big government. Who but a socialist revolutionary would pass this reckless spending bill in the middle of a depression?

    -- Cap and trade. Like health care legislation having nothing to do with health care, cap and trade has nothing to do with global warming. It has everything to do with redistribution of income, government control of the economy and a criminal payoff to Obama's biggest contributors. Those powerful and wealthy unions and contributors (like GE, which owns NBC, MSNBC and CNBC) can then be counted on to support everything Obama wants. They will kick-back hundreds of millions of dollars in contributions to Obama and the Democratic Party to keep them in power. The bonus is that all the new taxes on Americans with bigger cars, bigger homes and businesses helps Obama "spread the wealth around."

    -- Make Puerto Rico a state. Why? Who's asking for a 51st state? Who's asking for millions of new welfare recipients and government entitlement addicts in the middle of a depression? Certainly not American taxpayers. But this has been Obama's plan all along. His goal is to add two new Democrat senators, five Democrat congressman and a million loyal Democratic voters who are dependent on big government.

    -- Legalize 12 million illegal immigrants. Just giving these 12 million potential new citizens free health care alone could overwhelm the system and bankrupt America. But it adds 12 million reliable new Democrat voters who can be counted on to support big government. Add another few trillion dollars in welfare, aid to dependent children, food stamps, free medical, education, tax credits for the poor, and eventually Social Security.

    -- Stimulus and bailouts. Where did all that money go? It went to Democrat contributors, organizations (ACORN), and unions -- including billions of dollars to save or create jobs of government employees across the country. It went to save GM and Chrysler so that their employees could keep paying union dues. It went to AIG so that Goldman Sachs could be bailed out (after giving Obama almost $1 million in contributions). A staggering $125 billion went to teachers (thereby protecting their union dues). All those public employees will vote loyally Democrat to protect their bloated salaries and pensions that are bankrupting America. The country goes broke, future generations face a bleak future, but Obama, the Democrat Party, government, and the unions grow more powerful. The ends justify the means.

    -- Raise taxes on small business owners, high-income earners, and job creators. Put the entire burden on only the top 20 percent of taxpayers, redistribute the income, punish success, and reward those who did nothing to deserve it (except vote for Obama). Reagan wanted to dramatically cut taxes in order to starve the government. Obama wants to dramatically raise taxes to starve his political opposition.

    With the acts outlined above, Obama and his regime have created a vast and rapidly expanding constituency of voters dependent on big government; a vast privileged class of public employees who work for big government; and a government dedicated to destroying capitalism and installing themselves as socialist rulers by overwhelming the system.

    Add it up and you've got the perfect Marxist scheme -- all devised by my Columbia University college classmate Barack Obama.

    source:

    http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/obama-s-...-95716764.html

    AS TO THE VERACITY OF OBUMMERCRAPSTER'S CLASSMATE'S ARTICLE:


    "Correctly attributed" says snopes!
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/overwhelm.asp
     
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  4. Trinnity

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    Oh loong, it's to be expected. Leftists will defend a Marxist. A fascist, a socialist.... they're of the same ilk.
     
  5. Pollycy

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    I can't decide whether this "Enabling Act" that Hitler, oops... I mean, Obama has now decreed, is intended to grease the gears for yet another, larger unpopular war, or for yet another recession/depression that will be worse than the one we're still in now.

    Especially galling are the parts that describe "loans" and "subsidies", coordinated (of course), by Bernanke's other stooge in the Obama regime, Tim Geithner, Treasury Secretary. Gee! I just wonder who is going to be on "the hook" for all THOSE commitments...?

    Why haven't we heard ONE SINGLE WORD about this unconstitutional nightmare on any news channel? Not even on FOX, to the best of my knowledge....
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What the President did falls within that right for upholding our "group" Right for a "National Defense"in my opinion. Of course those who read the constitution differently have the right to use the court system to challenge that if they so choose. That's the only way to resolve the issue in my opinion.
     
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    This is Martial Law..plain and simple. Could a devastating loss, to the liberals, of the House, Senate and Presidency be countered by this EO? A way to stop the wheels of our democracy from turning, by declaring a state of emergency? Watch the polls...if things look too glum for the democrats in October we all may be in for a rude awakening as to just who this man is...those of us that don't already know that is.
     
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    So you come up with a completely stupid take on a routine bureaucratic EO. Because your take is transparently ridiculous, the media doesnt report it. And that, to you, is suspicious.

    The closed loop is complete.
     
  9. RP12

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    You are part of an enemy group because i say so. Good bye.
     
  10. Professor Peabody

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    So we can count on the leftists to vote for someone else in November then? By the way Bush was a Neo-Con.
     
  11. kilgram

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    No, while Obama is marxist, Bush is Libertarian.

    The leftists on November, most of them won't vote. And the liberals will vote for Obama.

    In USA, the leftist vote only can go to the Greens.
     
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    Wow! Correctly attributed!! Is that considered an achievement in conservative circles?

    Doesnt change the fact that Root's premise is moronic.
     
  13. RP12

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    People need to give up the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) R Vs L crap. This isnt a game. When a President grabs power like this we all lose.
     
  14. AtsamattaU

    AtsamattaU Well-Known Member

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    Good idea. Let's start with a thread that isn't based on manufactured hype planted by the right-wing puppeteers.
     
  15. RP12

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    The EO isnt "hype". You might like to defend tyranny because the letter in front of a politician. Some of us are smart enough to know this isnt a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing game.
     
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    Yes...a voice of reason..unfortunately the liberals are willing to forfeit all of our liberties and freedoms to achieve their fantasies of a Utopian world. Once achieved, if achieved, their real battle will commence...amongst themselves...once they discover that they actually don't agree with each other either about so many issues that fall under the false banner of liberalism.
     
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    Calling it "martial law" and "fascism" absolutely is.
     
  18. kilgram

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    You should check in the Republicans, too. The laws more restrictive and absurd are approved by the conservative. For example making illegal deny the existence of God, kissing the breaths of the woman, the only valid sex position is the missionary and things like that. That are laws passed in some of the states of USA, basically the Southern ones, traditionally REpublican and conservative.
     
  19. RP12

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    Did i say either of those? No. Reply to me dont continue your ranting with another poster when you hit reply to my posts.

    This is another power grab though. Throw this on top of the PAtriot Act and NDAA it doesnt look good.
     
  20. Trinnity

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    :wierdface:

    I think you are greatly mistaken.
     
  21. Pollycy

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    If any Republican had pulled a stunt like this -- especially by decree (a.k.a., "executive order"), the hyperlibs would be screaming bloody murder, and rightfully so!

    I'm more convinced now than ever that something very, very bad is about to happen, and this is how the Obama regime is preparing for it: http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_64368.shtml

    If you wonder why we on the Right gag so much when Obama tries to force something on us by decree consider the recent experience with Obamacare, when your wonderful President Autocrat and his majority gaggle of hyperlib Democrats stuffed this unconstitutional "mandate" (as in "mandatory") up our butts, down our throats, and everywhere else they could. NO, we don't trust him! We don't trust anybody but some "Blue Dog" Democrats, and we sure as hell don't trust any of Obama's adoring, obedient disciples who post in this forum.... :spin: Why should we...?!
     
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    "Be prepared, in the event of a potential threat to the security of the United States, to take actions necessary to ensure the availability of adequate resources and production capability, including services and critical technology, for national defense requirements."

    What this clearly means is Obama can "declare" a national emergency and the private sector must provide the adequate resources and production capabilities to produce want the government tells them to produce.

    This is fascism (government control of the means of production), pure and simple!
     
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    Can you specify, please? Why am I mistaken. I am not American, so I don't know everything of USA. Can you specify why am I mistaken? My information is wrong?
     
  24. AtsamattaU

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    Fine. Calling it a power grab is hype. And just as ridiculous as those who call it fascist and Marxist. Happy?
     
  25. RP12

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    Only to the deluded or hyper-partisan. No i am not happy. I dont like that we are getting closer and closer to a police state.
     

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