Prosecuting Trump for role in Jan. 6 riot got easier thanks to Capitol officers' testimony

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  1. Bush Lawyer

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    Nifty rose/cherry picking there Mr Surfer. Now...let's see 100% of what he said, wot? Do you have all of it?
     
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    Seriously? You don't know, but you are blaming him? Leftists... just blind allegiance.

    Well... AFTER he told them to peacefully protest and he saw the protest devolved into a riot, he went out and told everyone to "go home". You're welcome.

    You have no case. You don't even know the facts. But, here you are full of "Orange Man Bad".
     
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    Remember, protesting is a right according to democrats.
     
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    He's an Aussie.. not worth getting in an arguement .. his government is locking up protestors.. so I imagine he is hiding in his flat (with a mask on! LOL ) with nothing better to do than poke Americans with a sharp stick.
     
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    Sorry for the bad dog example. The devil made me to it. Dislike is not the same as guilt. I voted against him twice and still don't see any quote from him that a reasonable person could translate into the claim being made. Do you have a quote?
     
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    Trump's request for 10,000 National Guardsmen can be verified by asking the Acting Defense Secretary. When did he ask for them? What was the result? Etc. Another question is why did Trump wait two hours before asking the rioters to go home, when he knew of the break-in within minutes, two hours earlier? And, according to reports, there were three video versions made, with one of the three released. What were the other two and when were the videos made? The Cruz motion (asking for a ten day delay) which was defeated was coordinated with the WH, or at least Giuliani, because Rudy mentioned it in his speech at the Ellipse, BEFORE Cruz offered it in the joint session. Why was that motion coordinated with the WH? Cruz is a Constitutional expert, who must have known the motion would fail. Why did he go ahead with it?

    IOW, lots of questions to ask many people. And, don't forget Roger Stone and his "escort" by the Oath Keepers at the rally.
     
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    Ah, the power of conspiracy theories.
     
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    Yeah...kind of like BENGHAZI.
     
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    I think if they want to take him down they will. The problem is political division is the calculus for the current administration as he is a past POTUS and a demigod to Trumpers. My 2 cents, take him down and hard, send a clear message, no more like him ever.
     
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    I hear ya! I get that way sometimes too.

    You know he didn't say anything overtly or direct.

    But, but but...(lol)...he's just so horrible in so many ways. Why won't he just go away? Maybe we can agree to buy him a McDonald's and KFC on his own island. I'll even throw in some extra tvs so he can sit like an ancient Hollywood star watching himself on tv on multiple sets until The Reaper comes for his wicked soul. The only rule would be he can't leave the island and it's all null and voided if he posts anything online.
     
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    Ah, the irony.
     
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    Not even American to boot! Then again it's been awhile since they have had a lot of outdoor time :)

     
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    Hmmm? Isn't that what the European monarchies did to Napoleon...twice.
     
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    And arson too from what I seen ;)
     
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    Ya so much so they even made a movie about it. The gun fights and stuff were all made up I'm sure but good stuff all the same ;)
     
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    Oh, I think the film was reasonably accurate. In fact, it probably disproved a lot of the conspiracy stuff.
     
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    Uh huh :roll:
     
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    Simply because the word 'Fight' was used? So when someone is 'fighting' for a cause, that means that they intend to cause violence and force a mob reaction? Or does that only apply when Trump and/or Trump Supporters use the word 'fight'?

    We will need to investigate a lot of people and support groups if you intend to force that violence narrative so narrowly on the word 'fight'. Those that are fighting for women's rights, black lives, climate change, all those mothers against drunk driving, and those fighting for the whales... they all need to be arrested and thrown in jail. Is that what you are saying? How wonderful.
     
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    If he thought it would be peaceful, why did he ask the Acting Secretary of Defense to have 10,000 National Guard troops ready?
     
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    Wistful Martial Law and then Dictatorship?
     
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    Yea like Trump should have ordered the DC Police and Capital Hill Police to do anything or he should have ordered the Marines in to attack US citizens.
     
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    There's a lot more to it than that, but let's examine the word.

    Think of shalom. How do you know if it means hello or goodbye? Answer: if they leave after you say it, you said goodbye.

    Trump said fight fight fight, peacefully. That's not what they did.
     
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    And how exactly do you extrapolate that out to mean engage in violence and attack and invade the Capital?
     
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    What a ridiculous notion. I think the more important question, though, is if he was planning a riot why would he request 10,000 National Guard troops? That's kinda like a bank robber calling the police on himself before he robs the bank, don't you think?
     
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    I've been trying to figure that out myself. Trump said to protect the protesters. I don't know, but that could be interpreted as Trump knowing violence would break out, and he didn't want innocent people to get hurt.

    ...and he didn't want innocent people to get hurt.

    Did I just write that? Lol. Who tf knows what goes on in that stable genius mind of his.
     
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