Rape claims hit Islam scholar Tariq Ramadan in France

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  1. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    How will the Left spin this? Will it be like Weinstein/Spacey? Or will it be more like not all Muslims are like this?

     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Donor

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    'Mr Ramadan'? :roll::roflol: :roflol:FFS these people are something else aren't they!
     
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    Why would anyone need to spin this? Someone has been accused of serious crimes, the authorities are investigating and will hopefully respond appropriately. The only spin here seems to be that you believe a Muslim suspect is somehow more significant that all of the non-Muslim ones.

    And yes, of course not all Muslims are like this. Are you suggesting every single Muslim is a rapist? Do you think all film producers, all actors, all Americans or all men are like this too?
     
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    Mr Ramadan is swiss. However, his father and grandfather are not nobody. His grandfather founded the muslim brotherhood, pioneer of political islam (such a pleonasm) who want to settle the sha'riah in muslim countries, his father (the son of the founder of the muslim brotherhood) is the founder of the armed section of muslim brotherhood.

    Even if I despise Ramadan, and not for his origins, I don't know what to think about those accusations. He can't be sentenced without proves ,however I wouldn't be surprized that kind of man to behave like that.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Donor

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    We're fast approaching the time when, if we are to prevail, it will have to be a question not of 'innocent until proven guilty', but 'guilty until proven innocent'.
     
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    It's a huge moral dilemma. The fact that some djihadist aren't sentenced because of the "innocent" until guilty make me furious.

    I'm for the "innocent until guilty" ideology, but many crimes should be punished way more harshly. We're really living in a ballless civilization.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Donor

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    They're definitely going to win - it's only a question of when, and how long it will take. Only then will the stupid West realise the law should have been changed to give us a chance, but by then it will be too late.
     
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    I think there is still hope. A part of this hope can come from former muslims who are sick of this bullshit called islam and can't be considered racist by the delusionnal leftist.
     
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    Moderate Muslims are just as much victims of the Jihad as the rest of us. I'm afraid the biblical phrase about 'The meek shall inherit the earth.' is a load of crap. It's the strong who will inherit the earth.
     
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    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I like what Robert Spencer say about moderate muslims :
    There is moderate muslims but there is no moderate islam.

    About the strong who will inherit the earth, islamic countries are brutal not strong, that's different, even if western Europe is definitively weak.
     
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    How will the "Left" spin this? :roflol:

    Left Derangement Syndrome, much?

    99% of your obsessed over bogeyman (The Big Bad "Left") has probably never even heard of the guy.

    How will the "Left" spin this? :roflol:
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sorry but in my book brutality is strength. In fact there is no greater strength?
     
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    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No. Bigger armies were defeated by smaller armies with technological advance and better strategies. Islamic civilization created weak countries who were almost all colonized by european. The only one who kept indenpendance was the turks who often copied the european. This show how weak are and were muslim countries. Furthermore islamic civilization doesn't succeed so much because they developped an accurate way of thinking, european and american discovered gas and oil in there underground, the source of there richness and power.
     
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    Muslims are now the World's greatest supervictims, in the eyes of the Left. They are allowed to rape women and boys per the Koran. They now surpass, gays, Jews and Blacks as the most important class of victimized people.

    I think if Weinstein and Spacey were to convert to Islam, they would be near untouchable.
     
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    Really my questions at the top of the OP were about how the Left will portray the two incidents. If someone who is white does something bad then it will be attributed to white privilege and everyone who is Caucasian will be held responsible whereas if someone who is Muslim does something bad then it will be attributed to things going on with the individual and no one else will be responsible.

    I certainly don't know if Ramadan is guilty or not and I very much believe in 'innocent until proven guilty'. I just want one standard of judgement for everyone regardless of race, religion, nationality, sex, etc.
     
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    Let me put it this way, because you're spectacularly missing the point (and you're not the only one to be missing it by any stretch of the imagination): in all previous wars the combatants have worn uniforms, therefore can be recognised as being the enemy. The difference with this war, the war to end all wars, is that we're going to be continually on the defensive, which means we won't be able to take any offensive initiatives, because we won't know who the enemy is? In short, we will never win against an invisible enemy, and especially one who wants to be killed - not 'would rather not be killed', but wants to be killed? - for his cause?
     
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    Wow!

    A very cogent discussion on how to best destroy the American Way!

    Every murdering and slaughterer terrorist in history nods in approval for the values espoused in this thread!

    Bravo!
     
  19. VotreAltesse

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    The enemy is the islamic ideology. Sun Tzu explained that war wasn't simply about killing people, but make people loose the wish to fight. The only way is to convince moderate muslims their religion is bad.
     
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    That will never happen; for one thing - and just like in all religions - they've been brainwashed since birth to believe in their respective 'gods'; and for another thing religion is too well-entrenched into their DNA.
     

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