Rape claims hit Islam scholar Tariq Ramadan in France

OK so I can expect to see lots and lots of posts about the extensive spread of child abuse by paedophile priests. Much much more disgusting things. Posts about Weinstein etc. I gather you would champion those causes also.

 

Not just priests, but all religions and denominations, religion attracts pedophiles.
You'll see more in free countries, than in Islamic countries.
In Islam, the cleric has more power, and can have the accuser killed.
In Islamic countries the religion controls more than just the country, it also controls the media.
You'll see very little negative stuff coming out of the media in the country.




“Perfumed Garden” by Muslim Poet Abu Nuwas:

O the joy of sodomy!
So now be sodomites, you Arabs.
Turn not away from it–
therein is wondrous pleasure.
Take some coy lad with kiss-curls
twisting on his temple
and ride as he stands like some gazelle
standing to her mate…”

 

Sorry I cut that poem off, by Abu Nuwas, here is the rest of it.

A lad whom all can see girt with sword
and belt not like your whore who has
to go veiled.
Make for smooth-faced boys and do your
very best to mount them, for women are
the mounts of the devils

 

Lovely thanks for sharing, not my cup of tea, but I appreciate your interest in old poetry

 

And since when you're an expert on french laws ? You're not. I gave you the link to the website of french laws if you want to prove your claim. I just said that if I remember well, it's about every sexual act forced on someone. Furthermore, he has many police reports against him.

You must be either totally delusional or illiterate. Let's quote myself :

Where did I wrote he is guilty ? Nowhere. I just suppose it's more likely he did considering all the facts as I know about this case, but never I said I was sure of his guiltiness. Basically, you're just making up facts to fit your delusional version of reality. It's funny how you defend this guy as if you were in the same room than him and those women.

 

You go tell me!

That is an totally different woman.

 

He has several complaining.

 

it's not up to me to prove kissing = rape.
The question in the OP is how the left will spin this.

And I gave it a reply.
And you can not rebuke it.

When you said "your pathetic little tribal instinct make you sure he is innocent , because he is muslim"
I just flipped the table on you. I thought it was obvious.

 

By the way it's up to you. I mentionned that if my memory isn't wrong (and so I'm not saying so, I'm saying it's possible) that french laws says that any non consensual sex act may be rape. Furthermore, against, you're overlooking the fact that he choked this woman, he didn't just kissed. Then you called it fake news that kissing could be rape in french law. I was never affrimative, I just suggesta possibility. I gave you the link toward legifrance. You have all the tools to prove your sayings.
The original post mention two cases : the kiss then choke act and the rape.
I don't have the time to search for the laws articles on legifrance, so I spoke of the fact that choking someone and kissing her against her will could be rape according to french laws. Note that I use the conditionnal tense, not the affirmative one. If you want to call my conditionnal fake news, you will have to do the search yourself if you want so much to be affirmative.

You thought wrongly. I already gave my thoughts on that, it's seems likely for me that Ramadan is guilty in this case, but in the end, I won't say he is or he isn't guilty/innocent.

 

This is actually a good example of the Muslim sex crimes.
Here we have a Muslim who is accused, not convicted, but accused.
An we have a Muslim here who is trying desperately to downplay the crimes,
As though nothing happened that was wrong.

 

Ramada is not swiss, he is muslim heritage. Doesn't matter where he was born or what country he lives in.

 

Oh and non Muslims don't. ..Grow up

 

If he is Muslim, then he is probably guilty

 

Not like this.

This is the first I've seen it.
You do the same.

I never saw the same with Bill Cosby or Weinstein, or others.
People wait and see, many bitch about him.
But nobody sticks up for them.

BTW, Weinstein isn't convicted yet, but I am pretty sure he is guilty.

 

Muslim have a higher percentage of sex crimes, but no.
That does not make him guilty.



When you see a high profile priest accused, the Catholics don't stick up for him, they are just as disgusted as everyone else.

However when a Muslim does it, the Muslims come out of the woodwork to defend him, without even knowing anything about the case.

Shows the different standards within the cultures.

 

Garbage, watching the trial of an Australian bishop there were lots who supported him, usually old white women

 

Yeah right, I never heard of it.

 

It's funny how you seems convinced of the innocence of this man. I wasn't personnaly in the same room than Ramadan and this woman (and apparently, there were a lot of people considering all those people sure of the version of one side or another), so I'm not pretending I know.

 

This is a partial article, I would like to post the whole thing, but I think I violate the forum rules by doing so.

“Your Fault!” Why Western Women Get Raped by Muslims
PC Europe caters to Islamic teachings on Western women being sexually immoral.


We have to realize this is happening all over Europe.
Wherever Muslims go en-mass, the sex crimes hit the roof.
These stats are easily proven.




Are Western women responsible for provoking Muslim men into raping them? Some Europeans certainly seem to think so.

Recently, after a 20-year-old Austrian woman waiting at a bus stop in Vienna was attacked, beat, and robbed by four Muslim men from Afghanistan—including one who “started [by] putting his hands through my hair and made it clear that in his cultural background there were hardly any blonde women”—police responded by telling the victim to dye her hair:

At first I was scared, but now I'm more angry than anything. After the attack they told me that women shouldn't be alone on the streets after 8pm. And they also gave me other advice, telling me I should dye my hair dark and also not dress in such a provocative way. Indirectly that means I was partly to blame for what happened to me. That is a massive insult.

She is not the first victim to be blamed. According to FrontPage Magazine editor Jamie Glazov:

Cologne Mayor Henriette Reker’s response to the assaults under her watch [when 1,ooo German women were sexually molested and raped by Muslim migrants] has been to reprimand the victims, suggesting that they had asked for it. She has vowed to make sure that women will change their behavior, so that they don’t provoke Muslims to sexually assault them again. There will now be published “online guidelines” for women to read so they can prepare themselves…. Oslo Professor of Anthropology Dr. Unni Wikan’s solution for the high incidence of Muslims raping Norwegian women is not for the rapists to be punished, but for Norwegian women to “take their share of responsibility” for the rapes because Muslim men found their manner of dress provocative. Norwegian women, she has counseled, “must realize that we live in a Multicultural society and adapt themselves to it.”

These responses overlook the fact that, from the very start of Islam 14 centuries ago, European women—even chaste nuns—have always been portrayed as sexually promiscuous by nature.

This is easily discerned by examining medieval Muslim perceptions of Byzantine women. (Islam’s initial contact with Europe in the seventh century was through the Christian empire of Byzantium; it came to represent European women in Islam). Consider the following excerpts from Byzantium Viewed by the Arabs, by Nadia Maria el-Cheikh:

One quality that the Arab Muslims inevitably assigned to the Byzantines was beauty…. This characteristic, beauty, is associated with Byzantine women in particular. Byzantine women are described as being white-complexioned blondes, with straight hair and blue eyes.

 

In the case of kissing = rape.... you're still dragging in a totally different woman to make it stick.
You got nothing.

 

Source this one.

 

lololol

I'm not the prosecutor, and they believe they have something.

 

My god.

do you live in a barn,
Are you claiming you don't know anything about this.

Sweden is the rape capital of Europe. Since Sweden opened up its borders to refugees, there has been a massive increase in rapes. Sweden is now one of the most dangerous places on the planet for a woman. Other countries equally dangerous are South Africa, Botswana, and Lesotho.

 

You do not have a clue what amount to rape. It's a serious thing, and all you're doing is making things up.

 

I think he got that name when God was passing out brains.