Saudi Press: U.S. Blew Up World Trade Center To Create ‘War On Terror’

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It seems, in general, that Islamists do believe that the Western democracies are stupid, and there is a lot of evidence to support their contention.
     
  2. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    Well you do have a point there.....and we're getting dumber by the day, it seems. Still one must hope for a brighter tomorrow.
     
  3. Parabol11

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    The image of terrorist attacks is that of barbarian and primal execution. In this scenario, it is easy to make a move like step up the TSA (which would be happening anyways thanks to technological advancements and metadata collection), and point the finger at the guilty. This makes America feel somewhat safe again, limiting mass panic and the demonizing of certain ethnic groups, while at the same time feeling sedated with the fact that they will get their revenge. To paint terrorism with the ability to meticulously plot out and engage in attacks that require large scale access breaches and know how, would probably have a very negative impact on the stability of America.

    Note that I am not advocating the side of American involvement, as I came to an unfortunate stand still with this conundrum due to a lack of access to detailed and unbiased information (which is sadly the case regarding so many of my questions regarding geopolitics). I am just providing retort to the stance of the jet being an unnecessary tactic.
     
  4. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ahh, the audacity of hope!:wink:
     
  5. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It wasn't a 'tactic', it was theater, and great symbolism for the radical Muslim world. There is no need to overthink this.
     
  6. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    As soon as they say "blew up," you know they're talking crap. There were clearly no explosives involved and I can't begin to take anyone seriously who tries to state otherwise. It expresses great ignorance and a disregard for the facts.

    Anyway, what "digital model"?
     
  7. katsung47

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    907.The Feds control the internet (6/7/2016)

    On 6/5, Sunday, I joined two two groups in Facebook. One is "9/11 Truth Movement - All Theories Welcomed", the other one is "911 questions". I posted a news "Saudi Press: U.S. Blew Up World Trade Center To Create ‘War On Terror?
    ". Then I started to post my theory "The origin of 911 attack" in "9/11 Truth Movement". Soon I received a note from the group host.


    Norma Rae 11:58am Jun 5
    I leave it alone because my theory is 9/11 related. Then I found my postings started disappeared from the page. I went to the other group"911 questions", found a message was waiting for me:

    Ray Kraaijenhagen
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/911questions/?notif_t=group_r2j_approved&notif_id=1465156032708886


    To my astonishment was that I even hadn't started to post "The origin of 911 attack". How did Kraaijenhagen know what I was going to do next and threatened to "they will be deleted."?

    I reviewed that site, found many unrelated messages (such like passed away Boxing star Muhammud Ali...)

    The odd story indicts that: 1. I am under the surveillance by the Feds cyberspace team all the time. The response is instant. All happens in minutes.
    2. Those groups are set up by the Feds, are traps to net those who don't believe the lies of government.
    3. My analysis (The origin of 911 attack) is very correct. They are afraid of it.

    Judge it by yourself if my "The origin of 911 attack" is 9/11 related.

    http://katsung.forumotion.com/t6-from-ep-3-spy-plane-to-811?
     
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    ararmer1919 Banned

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    Yup. You are absolutely right. The government is out to get you. YOU specifically. You are very important. Very special. You are quite possibly the most important person on the planet. 'Cough cough bull(*)(*)(*)(*) cough cough'. Lmfao.
     
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    OP

    With 'friends' like the Saudis, who needs enemies? :mrgreen:
     
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    I didn't say you did. I quoted two people in my post and that particular comment was really aimed at the OP.
    I quoted you because of your link and the website it comes from.
     
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    Have you conspiracy nuts considered the amount of work it would take to demo a building of that size? It's not like a cartoon where you just lay a bunch of sticks of dynamite around and light a fuse. If it were that easy, actual demo crews would do that to the buildings that they implode.
     
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    The Islamic world wants to be taken seriously, then they do stuff like this on a regular basis.

    Pathetic.
     
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    You mean like invading Iraq and Afghanistan and bombing aspirin factories in Sudan?
     
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    Iraq and Afghanistan were terrorist states, the latter was the launching point for 9/11.

    You'd have to ask Bill Clinton about the aspirin factory.
     
  15. truth and justice

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    Obviously not very much when all it took for the buildings to be demolished was a little bit of aviation fuel on a couple of the top floors of the buildings. The impact from the planes were not contributing factors according to the official reports.
     
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    The report says no such thing.
     
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    The final report concludes that that by far the major cause of the collapse of both towers was the fire and heat from the aviation fuel. So please point out where in the reports does it state that the impact caused the collapse (an hour later)
     
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    You started with that the planes and the damage they caused were "not contributing factors". Now you are trying to slither over to that they were not "the major cause of the collapse". And I never claimed that the " impact caused the collapse". YOU made the claim about what the report says. Back up your bull(*)(*)(*)(*)
     
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    I will go back to stating that "The impact from the planes were not contributing factors according to the official reports." I will add "damage" to that sentence too. Now over to you...
     
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    Logical fallacy - ad hom. It is a fact (a fact that the Saudi's themselves have responded to) that their textbooks were teaching hate.

    In this case we did not just have the Shia fellow attesting to this fact - even so, the fact that he is Shia does not make his claim false.

    The PBS-Frontline staff vetted his claim.
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saudi/etc/textbooks.html

    Then you have interviews with other such as Mai Yamani


    From the interview:

    Your attempts to avoid reality in relation to the facts about Saudi Arabia are absolutely pathetic and lame.

    The last interview is with Hassan Youssef Yasin

    Any facts brought up in relation to Saudi Arabia's connection to extremism is met by by abject denial on your part.
     
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    Like I said, the report says no such thing. I cant post the entire report to show the absence of any such assertion while you could quite easily copy and paste a few sentences hat make the assertion. Over to you.
     
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    There is also the possibility that the thousands employed there may also have noted some suspicious activities.
     
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    The benefit of the American government from 9/11 was the destruction of America. United States Presidents and representatives have been on camera numerous times claiming a "New World Order", and that they will have their New World Order. Well after 9/11 American rights were stripped away. If the government suspects you of terrorism, you can be captured and detained without due process and held indefinitely. Or if you just get in their way, or catch them doing something illegal. They will just say your a terrorist and nobody will even know. The American people were ok with this, because they did or said nothing about it. They gave up their rights for the false notion of safety and security. And anyone willing to give up their rights for safety and security, shall receive neither. There is absolutely no such thing as safe and secure. Never has been, never will be. The moment the government can dictate crime, without due process (the right to a fair trial), is the moment America is no more. Lies and deceptions among the American people, have them believing they have rights, or that they are Americans. You have no rights, the "Patriot Act", took care of that, and there is no America to have Americans.
     
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    I have know Mai's father since before she was born.. She's an intellectual and a lesbian..

    The Saudis never supported the Talib.. They are Deobandi.

    There are radical Saudis, but most Saudis are not radical and most certainly the SAG isn't.
     
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    One of the good examples of the transparency in media was a commentary written on the first anniversary of the September 11 attacks by Rasheed Abu Alsamh published in Arab News:[19]


    First, we must stop denying that any of the hijackers were Saudis or even Arab. We must also stop saying that the September 11 attacks were a CIA-Zionist plot to make the Arabs and Islam look bad. That is utter nonsense. We must be mature and responsible enough to admit that these sick minds that hatched and perpetrated these dastardly attacks, were, sadly, a product of a twisted viewpoint of our society and our religion...We must stop the hatred being taught to our children in schools.

    On 8 May 2011, Hassan bin Youssef Yassin, a longtime aide to Foreign Minister Saud bin Faisal, wrote in Arab News that the Arab countries had all failed miserably to offer either democracy or economic well-being.
     

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