Sharia Has No Place in America

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  1. AnnaK

    AnnaK New Member

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    I agree. IMPO, he's insane. If he weren't already a citizen of the U.S. (I assume?) we wouldn't let him in here, either. LOL!
     
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    After thinking about this- my original post still is the appropriate response:

    My child would
    a) correctly note that that animal is not a donkey.
    b) be overjoyed to have a miniature horse in class.
    c) judge each child on how they treat other kids and themselves- not on their faith.

    My wonderful child is not a bigot.
     
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    There is a certain subsect of the Right that just is terrified of some 'other'.

    Over the decades it has been the Arabs, the Chinese, the Jews, the Catholics, etc.

    Right now they want us to be terrified and want us to discriminate against Muslims.

    Ten years from now it will be another group. But for these people there will always be a group.
     
  5. Jack Napier

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    Never mind Sharia.

    It's all cover, to deflect you from NDAA act, less internet freedoms, less privacy, and, of course, those Noahide Laws that lie half dormant, for now...

    ;)
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The point is, the horse is not a service animal. Another point is, by labeling horse a service animal, we accomodate religion (particular religion, mind you)
     
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    Black Panthers are socialists, with no connection to any religion.
     
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    Why not? You're perfectly happy to have brutal savages from Latin America, most likely Catholic, who have tortured and murdered, living openly in the Unites States. Details on request.
     
  9. AnnaK

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    There are many kinds of service animals - dogs, monkeys, pigs - that allow disabled children and adults to lead more independent and productive lives. Different animals work better with some owners than others and there needs to be a good bonding between the animal and the owner in order to be successful. The "private complainers" should be ashamed of themselves and just be grateful they or their child don't need one themselves.

    My granddaughter has an extremely rare genetic disorder that makes her subject to sudden blackouts. Her service dog goes to the community college with her and is able to give advance warning of an attack which has prevented her falling suddenly and injuring herself. You can tell your "private complainers" to go screw themselves - if they don't like having a service animal around their child, they can take them somewhere else.
     
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    "the horse is not a service animal"

    Hmmmm why is 'the horse' not a service animal? I see the exception- but okay- they are treated as service animals and can be Guide Animals and Hearing Animals.

    Q: What is a service animal?


    A: The ADA defines a service animal as any guide dog, signal dog, or other animal individually trained to provide assistance to an individual with a disability. If they meet this definition, animals are considered service animals under the ADA regardless of whether they have been licensed or certified by a state or local government.


    Both capuchin monkeys and miniature horses are trained to help the disabled live independent lives.

    The motivating force behind the use of miniature horses as guide animals has nothing to do with religion- though of course someone may chose a horse over a dog for religious reasons.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/04/m...2&sq=horse riedel&st=cse&scp=1&pagewanted=all

    Edie isn’t the only blind person who uses a guide horse instead of a dog — there’s actually a Guide Horse Foundation that’s been around nearly a decade. The obvious question is, Why? In fact, Edie says, there are many reasons: miniature horses are mild-mannered, trainable and less threatening than large dogs. They’re naturally cautious and have exceptional vision, with eyes set far apart for nearly 360-degree range. Plus, they’re herd animals, so they instinctively synchronize their movements with others. But the biggest reason is age: miniature horses can live and work for more than 30 years. In that time, a blind person typically goes through five to seven guide dogs. That can be draining both emotionally and economically, because each one can cost up to $60,000 to breed, train and place in a home.
     
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    If those you oppose do it then it's called "bigotry". bigotry is bigotry, regardless of who does it. Correct?
     
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    And you know that how? Are you saying this child just brings her animal to school every day for no reason - simply because she's Muslim? Really?
     
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    If Sharia has 'no place' in the US, then the US has 'no place' invading and occupying anyone.
     
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    This is oddly a 'pet' issue for you- because I can't find anything about service miniature horses being utilized for religious reasons.

    Since the ADA specifies 'other animals' I doubt any school would care to risk a lawsuit by telling anyone that their choice of species of service animal is the wrong one.

    And religious accomodations? Seriously? I grew up with fish being served in the cafeteria every Friday. Schools accomodate relgious diets all the time.
     
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    I've got a Christmas gift for you, Jack. Make sure you play with it:

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    That makes absolutely no sense. The US isn't the bad guy here. If the Islamist gangsters will not reform and do good, then they have to be eliminated until those who wish to do good can hold onto power. The US is a stronger man than the Islamist gangsters. That's all this is about.
     
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    So your position is that the United States should invade any country that we don't consider 'reformed' and 'doing good'?

    Oh wait- I realize you only mean Islamic countries that don't fit your judgement on the issue.

    Unless of course they are just dictators ruling Muslim majority countries.....those gangsters are okay....well unless they are not....

    But it is all about Muslim countries....
     
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    That's because that vacuous remark is totally devoid of elementary Logic, and it totally overlooks the inconvenient facts surrounding 1) the September 11, 2001 attacks on our country committed by a terrorist group that was based in Afghanistan and provided safe harbor by its government and 2) the Hussein regime's violations of the Gulf War I ceasefire agreement.

    You see, in Jack's alternate universe where Logic and facts don't matter, the perpetrator is the victim.

    Never mind that religious law has no place in a country governed by secular law...
     
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    It makes every sense.

    Saying Sharia has no place in the US, is moot, since AFAIK, you are not on the verge of being a country that operates under it, are you?

    No you are not.

    Not even close.

    It is a lot of BS to even suggest otherwise.

    You are on the other hand like a pack of warmongers, that cannot keep your sorry backsides out of other people's countries, and try to impose your will on them.

    That's real.
     
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    Not at all.

    I know well enough who the perpetrators are.

    Zionist Jews and Neo Cons is a good start.

    Only those that are willing to sell the constitution down the river could support either.
     
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    we do not consider all german's neo-Nazis, many Germans legally immigrated to this country

    and the fact that Christians has been linked to Usama bin Laden, doesn't mean we say all Christians are terrorists, same is true with Muslims

    .
     
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    Really interesting take on how some people would look at a story

    http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Her-assistant-her-guide-her-horse-3665174.php

    Now me- I would read the story of 32 year old Mona Ramouni and her 'seeing eye' horse as inspirational


    They can remain in service for 40 years or more, while guide dogs last about eight years before they need to be replaced.

    Cali also has keener eyesight than a guide dog, is less easily distracted and doesn't pull like a dog might, Ramouni said. The horse also can wait as long as six hours before needing to relieve itself. When she is ready to go, Ramouni said, Cali will get restless and a little bratty until she's let out.


    See- i find all of this really inspirational.

    But to the Islamophobes- all they see is a donkey sitting next to a Muslim girl in a headscarf.
     
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    When Americans, for over 200 years, go through a full day without washing their feet, what makes Muslims think they have to do this ?

    It might also be noted that the $25,000 foot-washing basin cost to the university, came at a time when tuition costs were going up, so guess who's paying for these dopey things ?
     
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    Absolutely. Racist religious bigots known as Mulsim Islamists, and their supporters, like you.
     
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    It is Islamzation, AKA Muslim ass-kissing.
     
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