The electoral college needs to go, its broken and only serves to disenfranchise voters

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  1. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We have only one Constitution. What article is that ???
     
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    Some conservative regions would secede before accepting the mob rule of pure democracy. For many Americans, popular opinion is far less valued than the constitution.

    The EC is the only thing keeping the Union hole. There is certainly an argument to be made for dissolving the Union, given the extreme gap that exists between the left and the right. But you should understand that abolishing the EC will have the effect of breaking up the nation if thats what you really want.
     
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    Don’t like it? Change the Constitution.
     
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    That’s when things made sense.
     
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    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Says someone whose party, through super delegates, anointed Hillary primary winner before the first vote was cast.
    As far as win by any means, the left has gone so far as to manufacture dirty evidence and even, if you can believe this, the casting of spells on DT.
     
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    b040.gif That's going to leave a mark.
     
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    Nah.
    Proving him wrong has no effect whatsoever.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    The Democrat running for President received a majority of the popular vote exactly twice since 1976, but won the presidency 4 times.
     
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    The Electoral college and the 2 senators per state, regardless of population, serve the purpose of removing us from a list of the worlds democracies.We are a country where the tail wags the dog no longer majority rule.
     
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    No western democracy chooses its head of government through a popular vote of the people.
    So... you're wrong.
     
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    And who's going to bring about that force? You probably think your little post here is going to somehow create a grassroots movement to throw out the Constitution. As someone has already said, if you don't like it - change it. So change it already instead of doing what every millennial does - wishing, hoping and whining while waiting for somebody else to do it for them, while playing video games in their mom's basement.
     
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    The level of ignorance by Leftists concerning the Electoral College is amazing. We are a Republic for good reason. We have Private Property and "Free Markets" as a backbone for our nation. With a pure Democracy, those things are greatly endangered.

    Q: What is the largest section of the U.S. Constitution?

    A: The Electoral College section.

    Q: Why?

    A: Because without it, the U.S.A. would have never been formed and without it the U.S.A. will break up.


    It's not going anywhere election losers. So either start trying to work with Americans not stuck in our decaying, depraved cities, or kiss the Presidency goodbye.

    Also, you have no idea what the real popular vote would have been if that was the competition. Because in that scenario, Trump does campaign in California, New York, and Illinois, and does have a better showing in the popular vote.
     
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    Go back to ****ing stormfront. Also: Quit claiming to be Texan, you're not from here.
     
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    So, Trump should have campaigned in CA and NY to secure a popular vote that has no meaning? Happens he's a genius. He managed to win an election by a landslide despite losing by 2M illegal alien votes. He deserved to win just based on outsmarting Democrats.
     
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    Trump won the majority of states - majority rule.
     
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    65 of the worlds so called democracies elect their leadership directly from popular vote,TRUE DEMOCRACIES!!29 allow their elected legislature to pick their leader and the remainder are actually constitutional monarchies.
     
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    People vote, states don't!!
     
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    can you imagine the outrage if Obama lost the popular vote but still won... I can

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    Trump disagrees
     
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    Exactly ZERO Western democracies elect their head government though a popular vote of the people.
    Zero.
    UK? Nope.
    France? Nope.
    Germany? Nope.
    Canada? Nope.
    Japan? Nope.
    Israel? Nope.
    Norway? Nope.
    Sweden? Nope
    ad nauseam.
     
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    Can you imagine the outrage if Obama colluded with Russia and in that exact same term, they were welcome into our systems?

     
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    Nothing in this thread addresses why or how the Electoral College is broken.

    Irrelevant. Trump and his opponents has agreed to have their election in this manner, and so have previous candidates before them.
    Everyone has a say in the presidency. If it was up to one entire state to select the president, it means that 51% of the population prefers another candidate over another.

    That's basically all the Electoral College is.
    You're not really saying anything meaningful here.
     
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    voting is highly overrated, any moron can do it, and unfortunately, many do.

    I would allow voting only for those who pass a citizenship test, and who are financially solvent--if you can't handle your own money, how in hell are going to be financially wise enough to elect those in charge of the treasury?
     
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    This is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if Trump likes the system; it doesn't even matter if he likes it. All that matters is if he agreed to campaign on the system we have at the moment.
     
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    Citizens vote for representatives. We are a Constitutional Republic. Representatives are elected by the people of each district and Senators are elected by the people of each state. Each state has two Senators. The number of Representatives per state is determined by each state’s population of US citizens.
     
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