US Lawmakers Seek to Criminalize Boycotts of Israel

No. Lying again
It remains Fair because we are talking about non-Oil economy Arab countries. That includes Gaza/palestine.
Stop with the Dishonest attempts.

Again, "Fact" is that Gaza is part of/has the Third world's best safety net: the USA/EU backed UNRWA which provides, Housing, Food, Schooling, Medical care, and even Summer Camps.
So just using GDP doesn't tell the story of the UN/USA/EU Welfare state.
Again, they are much better off than most of the non-Oil Arab world.

Palestine has a 10% rate of stunted children!
OMG!... But
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2002/09/mid-s12.html
UN report on Middle East catalogues widening inequality

..."The report cites the stunted growth of children as a growing phenomenon in the Middle East. In some states the number of children growing up stunted form a higher percentage than those attaining normal height. This is particularly the case in populations that have experienced extreme poverty and war over an extended period, including Yemen, Iraq and Sudan.

Anthropometry measures show that stunted growth among children is as high as 52% in Yemen, 44% in Mauritania, with rates in Comoros and Iraq above 30%. In Egypt, Kuwait, Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, Morocco, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Syrian Arab Republic and the UAE, levels of stunted growth are recorded at levels of between 15% and 25%."..."​

So even including some Oil States, Palestine is in relatively good shape.
Apples to Apples, Arabs to Arabs.
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1. Mondoweiss is an infamous anti-zionist BLOG.

2. So we can forget the consensus and MSM and go with your Hate/Conspiracy websites because "very few people trust the MSM.

3. Where are your credible sources for the Ostensible Dayan "quote"?
POOF!

4. Where is the credible source for "Juba" the "Israeli sniper" "Killing Hundreds of Americans"?
POOF!

5. the fact is your posts are Nothing but anti-semitic conspiracy garbage.

6. When I/others refute your trash, you claim WE are "off topic",
but NONE of your posts are on THE String topic:
US Lawmakers Seek to Criminalize Boycotts of Israel

7. IOW, virtually ALL of your posts, in virtually ALL of the strings you post in are just Piling on gratuitous Jew/Israel Dirt.
Begin/Dayan/Liberty/War-starting/Juba-the-Sniper, ALL OFF TOPIC.
It's Foaming/Rabid.
You can't help yourself. There are oft so many in each post, and oft you take the strings far afield because you just can't stop.

7a. Not to mention, your need repeat the same slanders/Identical trash links every few days, in any topic. One can see that when searching for an honest source for them. Mostly it's you here and elsewhere in many strings.
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His list stunk and I gutted him.
Yes, Israel almost certainly killed some scientists in Iran to slow their threatening (to Israel) Nukes program.
I agree.
And beyond threatening Israel with Nukes, Iran directly kills Israelis by funding Hezbollah.

No wonder you like Grau's list.
This link is Conspiracy garbage just like the ones we see in all of his posts
http://thenewsdoctors.com/
You found him a new toy/JOKE.
Alas the joke is on you now too.
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Hahaha... the one who laughs last laughs the best!!!!
Trump said, all your news links are FAKE!!!

 

While people that run around demanding everyone boycott Israel are no better than neo-Nazis, you can't make it illegal.

 

That's right! The Nazis were good German people.

 

I might go visit Israel one day if they build the 3rd temple.

I don't really think this law will actually pass/stick. But I could be wrong and if I am I don't think it could actually be enforced. I actually thought it was a bunch of Jew haters that made this up when I first heard of it but now I am not sure what to think about it. Guess I would need to read the actual law to really know what's going on.

 

There are antiboycott laws in the US already.

Four states have signed anti BDS bills into laws: Arizona, Florida, Illinois, Tennessee.

A law in South Carolina bars public entities from contracting with companies that boycott based on gender, race, color, religion, or national origin.

Obama himself signed into law a trade measure containing legislation combating BDS in Europe.

This thread is a sham, meant to make the US government, American Jews and Israel look bad. A real on topic discussion should have been based on the text of the bill, not on endless whining.

Oh well, maybe it's not too late:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/720/text

Enjoy.

 

I am no lawyer, but from what I understand a business can decide not to do business with Israel for pragmatic reasons. If they decide not to do business with them for morale/political reasons they will be breaking the law. It also seems to say it will be illegal for a citizen to try to start a boycott or convince anyone or company to join.

It this bill has bipartisan support. Even some of the politicians who seem the most adamant about defending free speech are supporting this.

I guess I can see the reasoning behind it. They are trying to prevent the average citizen or a company having too much influence over foreign policy. I can also see worry of an enemy of Israel promoting a boycott in the US. They can come in or hire US citizens to push their agenda and nothing legally could be done.

It is a slippery slope even it the intentions are good. Government tends to like to expand power not limit it. Something like this could eventually result in a law you can not protest a war. The basic reasoning is the same. It could be considered harmful to the US and its Allies. Then move on to include other things people can not protest.

 

And your posts being the funniest means.....

 

A pronoun with no antecedent identified. The reader doesn't know who you're talking about.

 

Knowledgeable readers will.

 

They fought in those wars but obviously didn't start them.

 

I'll ask again. What nations has Israel started wars with?

 

Your comparison was to specifically never mind the oil economy of Arab countries. And that makes your comparison totally dishonest. Those Arab states you talked about got massive economies. Gaza does not. It is at rock bottom. Hence that needs to change. Your argument therefor is debunked.

You mean,.. their safety net is utterly massive foreign aid for decades, because their economy is rock bottom. It is that low, that they are unable to sustain themselves one bit. They need to get an economy going to the world can finally stop giving them this much aid. And your argument that they don't need to, is therefor debunked.

Oh... suddenly you dropped the entire obesity / malnutrition and come up with a whole new angle.
Do note you hopped from the economy, to obesity to now stunted growth....
because you lost the first 2 arguments

Well apples and pears. Your source does not mention Gaza.

 

Lying again I see.
I did NOT "drag them in", I specifically excluded them by saying that gazans are no worse than the NON-oil economies.
You're just outright Lying.
(or should we say taqqiyah)

Guess again. The UNRWA was set up right after the 1948 War. They didn't wait for GDP stats.
Unlike ALL other broke-ass refugees of the Post WWII era, Only palestinians got their own agency, and it makes up THREE QUARTERS of the UN refugee apparatus
UNRWA alone is 3x Larger than the UNHCR, that deals with the rest of the Planet's much larger Real refugee population.

YOU claim Obesity was part of Malnutrition instead of overeating, so I answered with Malnutrition/stunting stats!
Doh!
IOW...
I'll beat you any way you slide.
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preemptive strike... is just an other word for starting the war. And you did nothing about debunking those other instance I mentioned

 

You said "Imagine Saudi Arabia without oil money. Imagine the Arab Middle East without money." post 73
And with that you started a comparison that is just false. The ME got a massive oil economy. Gaza's economy is rock bottom. Those are the facts.

You brought fiction.

You're only proving Palestinians are that dirt poor by mentioning this, and make an argument to promote the idea that it's time to let them stand on their own feet with their own economy.

I sourced that the red cross claims the people in Gaza suffer from malnutrition, while the Jews calculate the amount calories they let in that place. And iffy diets, lead to being overweight. And the red cross says the bulk of their diet is oil and sugar.

Are you able to understand that such a diet makes you overweight while also being malnourished?
Seriously. Have you ever heard about .... the food pyramid? Maybe look it up and learn.

 

Exactly "WITHOUT MONEY", IOW and NON-OIL state.
Speak English! (or should we do this in Arabic?)
So I was comparing Gaza to other NON-oil countries and those who had "Arab Spring".
Next time quote me Honestly, fully, or even Coherently.

taxonomy26:

Gaza is only a "prison" because they double/rabbit the population every 20 years.
Imagine Saudi Arabia without oil money.
Imagine the Arab Middle East without money.
Oh wait, you don't have to, they had a 'prison' revolt: 'Arab Spring.'
There just aren't enough jobs, food, or resources for all those Arabs.​

Oh, BTW, you pointed out that Gaza (or Palestine) is #167 in GDP.
Of course that's NOT GDP PER CAPITA.
Having low GDP just shows there an overall small country.

GDP Per Capita in Gaza is.. $6100!
https://www.google.com/search?q=gaz....1.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.94.bT1NGddgAzc

GDP Per Capita in Jordan is... $4100.
https://www.google.com/search?q=gdp....1.1.64.psy-ab..0.10.864...0i67k1.pYC86Pq4CPI

OOOOPS!
YEOWCH!
BYE!

AGAIN. I brought in stunting because you said Obesity was due to Malnutrition.
IF it was Stunting would be much higher, as it IS throughout the Arab Middle East.

Like I said, I'll pork no matter how you want play it.
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May I kindly remind you that Israel was already in a state of war with those countries at the time due to them attacking nascent modern Israel in 1948 and not signing a peace treaty at the end of that war. This is still the situation with Syria and Iraq.

 

The Lebanon?

 

Of course.

https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/arab-israeli-war

 

Was Israel in a state of war with the Lebanon after 67?

 

I repeat: no peace treaty has been signed with Lebanon, Iraq and Syria. Yes, Israel is in a state of war with Lebanon, Iraq and Syria.

 

The answer to your Off Topic tangent has already been answered within my responses for those who WILL see the facts as they are.

Additionally:

"Israel’s attack on Egypt in June ’67 was not ‘preemptive’"

https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.co...ttack-on-egypt-in-june-67-was-not-preemptive/

EXCERPT "It is often claimed that Israel’s attack on Egypt that began the June 1967 “Six Day War” was a “preemptive” one. Implicit in that description is the notion that Israel was under imminent threat of an attack from Egypt. Yet this historical interpretation of the war is not sustained by the documentary record."CONTINUED

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"Israel provoked the Six-Day War in 1967, and it was not fighting for survival"

http://mondoweiss.net/2017/06/provoked-fighting-survival/

EXCERPTS "I am old enough to remember clearly how the Six-Day War was reported at the time. Just about everything we were told then was wrong, as the major historians of the period all acknowledge today. Let’s start with how the crisis was covered as it happened, 50 years ago……..

This Mainstream Narrative remains unchallenged in the popular imagination, 50 years later. Just the other day, a New York Times reporter stated as fact that in 1967, “Israel defied annihilation by its Arab neighbors.”CONTINUED