US Lawmakers Seek to Criminalize Boycotts of Israel

You're not paying attention as I have responded to the topic:
US Lawmakers Seek to Criminalize Boycotts of Israel

Meanwhile, you predictably omitted the following in your laughably vitriolic tantrum while I was responding to another Poster's question Re: Wars started by Israel:

"Israel’s attack on Egypt in June ’67 was not ‘preemptive’"
https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.co...ttack-on-egypt-in-june-67-was-not-preemptive/

EXCERPT "It is often claimed that Israel’s attack on Egypt that began the June 1967 “Six Day War” was a “preemptive” one. Implicit in that description is the notion that Israel was under imminent threat of an attack from Egypt. Yet this historical interpretation of the war is not sustained by the documentary record."CONTINUED

While busily hurling fraudulent personal attacks, you also refused to answer how Israel's deliberate attack on our USS Liberty was accidental given the fact that IDF initially used unmarked planes and strafed lowered American life rafts.

Then there's your typical boilerplate Hasbara howls of anti Semitism when I've simply debunked your specious fantasies with sources you don't like.

 

I'll ask again. What nations has Israel started wars with? (Fourth try)

 

-Egypt nullified all articles of the standing armistice agreement thus restoring de-jure the conditions that existed prior to the agreement - which was the state of war. In this respect Israel's actions were not pre-emptive, they were a response to Egypt's acts of war

-Egypt's military blockade of Israel was an undeniable act of war. In this respect Israel's actions were not pre-emptive, they were a response to Egypt's act of war.

-Egypt's "Operation Dawn" to invade Israel was aborted only because the US found out about the plan and it lost the element of surprise. In this respect Israel fully expecting an invasion which the existence of "Operation Dawn" proved to be imminent, was absolutely justified to respond and preempt.

 

They bomb hezbollah, not Lebanon. And what is a country doing with an armed terrorist militia doing operating outside of governmental control?

Can the democratic national party form its own army and start firing rockets into Mexico? What other country on earth operates like that?

 

I guess you're unfamiliar with most of the arab muslim countries, who?:

1) have constitutions built on sharia law
2) are almost exclusively arab muslim
3) have ethnically cleansed most of their non muslim minorities out over the past 50 years.

But that's not what this is about, your aim is to just attack jews, right?

 

Why would they need to? They are parasites who have used the false excuse of being "occupied" for 60+ years to guilt billions of the West, why stop the gravy train?

Its a win-win for them; more people = more money, more misery to show the West how "horrible" they have it, and more fodder for hamas/iran to fire at Israel to be slaughtered in pointless terrorst attacks.

 

You failed in every aspect of this thread; unable to prove a single thing you've claimed. Pathetic.

 

Oh wait, "mondoweiss" - the stormfront affiliate said something nasty about jews/Israel, so it MUST be true. What a high quality forum we have.

 

Amazing how gaza is such a horrible place, yet the population keeps increasing, wow, who could have believed it: yes, I'm a parent and I want to have MORE children added into my horrific area. That certainly makes so, so much "sense."

Its like the crap from the central/south americans and their lies about how they just HAD to leave those areas and sneak into the US because they were "war zones", yet they for some reason chose to leave their kids back there. Lies and more BS.

 

Israel has been in a state of war with Lebanon since 1948.

BTW, where's your apology from misquoting me earlier?

 

1) Did Egypt blockade Israel before the 1967 war? Yes, they did.

2) Was Egypt sending in lots of fedayeen fighters to conduct terrorist attacks in Israel for YEARS leading up to 1967? Yes, it did.

3) Did Egypt order the UN troops to vacate the Sinai border and move its army right up to the border? Yes it did.

Still talking? Yeah, thought so.

 

The reality is that Hezbolla came into being because of Israel invading Lebanon. Before that the Lebanon Shiites supported Israel and hated the Palestinians. People do not like being occupied. The Shiites were no different.

In the beginning of this article Avnery describes the artificial creation of Lebanon, how the Shiites were the weakest group but also the group bordering where Israel temporary had its borders. He describes how they were friendly towards Israel and how it was generally accepted they would be the next to make friends with Israel, how the Palestinians moved there bases to Lebanon after 1970's Balack September in Jordan and Israel's border with Lebanon was no longer quiet. He describes how when Israel first invaded the Shiites were delighted to see them. Houses were open to the Israelis offering coffee. The problem was you didn't go away.

http://www.eurasiareview.com/19032016-hezbollah-my-terrorist-your-terrorist-oped/

Then of course there was the 2006 Lebanon war the first time Israel fought her new way which we have most seen in Gaza - I cannot remember the name of it but your strategy for asymetiric war - letting go of the rules of war re care of civilians and massive destruction of civilian infrastructure. One Lebanese woman described how Israel dropped leaflets telling the civilians to leave as they were going to bomb then as they left in a convoy, Israel bombed the convoy. She also said that after 2006 Hezbollah was supported by all factions of Lebanon including the Marionite Christians. As can be seen it is Israel's actions which lost them allies.

http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery/1431703822

Yes it was achieved but at the cost of losing support from the Marionite Christians. The first Lebanon war lost you the support of Lebanon's Shiites, created Hezbolla and changed Lebanon Shiites from being anti Palestinian to their greatest supporters. The 2006 war against Lebanon resulted in Israel losing the support of the other people who had always support Israel the Marionite Christians. Guess Israel does not know civilians do not like people bombing them.

One day Israel will discover that all the superior weapons in the world as well as the willingness to ignore the rules of war re care of civilians will not create peace, just as it did not work for the US in Vietnam and is not working for the Saud's in Yemen. One day Israel will discover she really does need to talk and make concessions, that she cannot take whatever she wants by bombing and killing. Lebanon is one of the key areas which has shown how this strategy does not work.

(notice also the destruction there has been of the arc Avnery describes

and it's replacement with ISIS types.)

really?

https://theshalomcenter.org/node/1162

 

I thought Israel is in a state of war with almost everybody, including the US. I remember the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty.

 

You also bash anyone else that points out the FED and other entities are jewish leaning. As in racist bigots... Not fair at all...

I will say it again, they are the smartest people in this world and especially at business. But they do hold their money and will use it to leverage more. Not all, but many and money grubbers, black, white green is why you have to tax the rich higher...

A Liberal Jewish person is disliked by those in Israel because they are considered to not be pushing or backing the Agenda or the fatherland. This too is bad because it shows Jewish racism vs the world, especially blacks...
I almost married a jewish girl but her father would not hear of her marrying a non jewish person. That is racism in itself..

I would love to be a fly on the wall in a conversation you would have with a CARL ICAHN or Janet Yellen. Janet grew up thick with money and she is the "SPOKESWOMEN" for the richest most powerful corp. in the world. Her the the 98% jewish FED basically control the world thru, what else, Money !

 

You are correct in that Egypt more or less started that war. Seen many a JEWISH DOcs. on it, the truth and how it all played out. There has always been a lot of hatred for the jewish community over the years. Other than run damn good businesses, I don't see the need for the hate. The Gov't should do their job and just tax the rich, if that is 90% jewish people, so be it...
This will be some small amendment to the healthcare bill or some other way of sliding thru... It will be backed by all the conservative Jewish people in this country, at the FED, and other power players. The Liberal Jewish community when pinned down finally by the conservative group will have their hand forced. Sooner or later, there will be no liberal jewish people...
Just my thought on it...

 

That is so so WRONG... I am not jewish, just a half Irish, English, Dutch and whatever else bald white dude and I will tell you point blank. That is NOT true... They are surrounded now by hatred, I think because they were given that land... I don't see the right to claim... that was our land hundreds of years ago. No one can draw a line on a DATE to state who gets what based on certain dates, if true, all americans are in big trouble, so is SOuth America to the Inca's that are left and so on... Or maybe someone gets to decide this...
Israel is in a tough spot, but the big money people don't help and I think, as we go forward, the WANT of power and GREED, Trump, Putin, Netanyahu, and others will be a big problem. Could all be solved without greed, but they get lost in it...
Look at SOuth Sudan right now, watched VICE last night. what a mess between President and VP, over power and money of oil and gas. Once again, a few filthy rich and the rest living in shelters WE pay for... And no one is around to care... SOon, with power and money in control, this will end because guys like TRUMP will say, not our problem...

 

A total lie. The PLO invaded Lebanon 5 years earlier, and despite being oppressed and mistreated by the sunni PLO, they did not form any such group. Only when Israel entered to stop the PLO shelling from over the border did the shia form a terrorist group.

Yet under FIVE YEARS of PLO occupation they did nothing.

Where hezbollah fired at civilians to prevent them from leaving villages, but of course you make no mention of that.

 

Do yourself a favor and look up the word "preemptive" before further embarrassing yourself.

"The Egyptian Army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him." M. Begin

http://www.nytimes.com/1982/08/21/world/excerpts-from-begin-speech-at-national-defense-college.html


“I do not think Nasser wanted war. The two divisions which he sent to the Sinai, on May 14, would not have been sufficient to start an offensive against Israel. He knew it and we knew it.” (Yitzhak Rabin)

https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.co...ttack-on-egypt-in-june-67-was-not-preemptive/

 

You're mistaken in stating that "Egypt more or less started that war...." at least according to M. Begin & Yitzhak Rabin

"The Egyptian Army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him." M. Begin
http://www.nytimes.com/1982/08/21/world/excerpts-from-begin-speech-at-national-defense-college.html


“Begin's Admission in 1982 That Israel Started Three of Its Wars”

http://www.washingtonreport.me/1994...82-that-israel-started-three-of-its-wars.html


“I do not think Nasser wanted war. The two divisions which he sent to the Sinai, on May 14, would not have been sufficient to start an offensive against Israel. He knew it and we knew it.” (Yitzhak Rabin)

https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.co...ttack-on-egypt-in-june-67-was-not-preemptive/

 

And finally you're wrong again, "mondoweiss" is a Jewish site and hardly qualifies as "Stormfront" stuff.

Naturally, you omitted my other source supporting the fact that Israel planned & started the "67 War"

"Israel’s attack on Egypt in June ’67 was not ‘preemptive’"
https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.co...ttack-on-egypt-in-june-67-was-not-preemptive/

EXCERPT "It is often claimed that Israel’s attack on Egypt that began the June 1967 “Six Day War” was a “preemptive” one. Implicit in that description is the notion that Israel was under imminent threat of an attack from Egypt. Yet this historical interpretation of the war is not sustained by the documentary record."CONTINUED



You're not doing so well today, are you, Sport?

 

You did not do that. You compared Gaza with oil countries.

That gives me this:
http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?c=gz&v=67
Showing Jordan GDP is 6100, gaza is not even there.

you're a crappy sourcer and lost the debate

 

Simply Lying.
Your usual Taqqiya

So in the same post you Impeach Yourself.
I compared it Jordan which is NOT an oil country.
WTF!
The fact that YOU can't find it is your INABILITY. Duh.
I gave a valid link that Did have it.
You lose.

Tell me you're older that 15?
(and that your English is worse than others in Yemen)
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May I kindly remind you that you can not make a preemptive attack during a war.

 

Israel's tentacles are far-reaching. It's time to boycott them even more than we already do.

 

DISHONEST Short quote.
DESPICABLE antisemitism on show.
I already posted the fuller quote a few pages back.
Yet you dishonestly try it again.

Your (actually, MY, Previous NYT Link)

"...In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian Army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him. Wars With No Alternative

This was a war of self-defense in the noblest sense of the term. The Government of National Unity then established decided unanimously: we will take the initiative and attack the enemy, drive him back, and thus assure the security of Israel and the future of the nation.".."​

Your usual Despicable antisemitism Jumping off the page.
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