Water Filtering Plant In Donetsk Captured By Ukrainian Forces

There were many tribes among Kievan Rus, but the main rulers were out of Kiev, and were clearly most like Ukrainians.

I don't think that Ukraine losing Donetsk is necessarily the worst thing in the World, anyways.

There's lots of idiotic Communist Soviet supporters in Eastern Ukraine.

The irony is millions of Eastern Ukrainians starved to death in the Holodomor, or ended up in Soviet Gulag's forced into slave labor, many whom died.

But, I suppose Soviet Communism is a no brainer for them, or more like no brainer is like it for them.

 

Putin really should withdraw his men and equipment from Ukraine. He really should do the right thing for once.

 

And I thought the ancient Kiev Rus were Viking. Hail Rurik

Of course there were many nations on the steppes.
But, they were under the dominion of them or those. Tatars, Poles, Russians, Mongols. etc.
Mostly, and for the last hundreds of years, the region termed Ukraine has been Russian.

Kiev to Novgorod to Moscow - St. Petersburg. A continuum.​

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Rurik might have had a Varangian warrior elite, but the masses of Kievan Rus were clearly Ruthenian.

Rurik also had N haplogroup from Scandinavia, like Finns, probably just a Finnic tribe who became Nord.

 

Ethnicity is a fascist/Nazi way of thinking. In the Anglosphere we think in terms of language and culture as making a people. When Galatia became part of Poland and fell under the Pope, its culture changed, so that it broke all connections to historic Kiev. Its Russo/Slavic Orthodox culture continued in Moscow and with the churches under its patriarchate.

Now to get into history. Here's a map of the ancient Greek colonies on the Black Sea, which proves they were there first. So if they want Russia to have Ukraine, then so be it.

 

If you float around online, you'll notice Eastern Europeans tend to be more fascinated with ethnicity, and genetics.

That's probably why Eastern Europe will survive, while the Anglosphere by it's own weakness will cease to exist.

By the way, a few Greek colonies in Ukraine's shores, hardly make it their own.

It's like saying Portugal has a right to it's shore colonies in Africa, just because of their colonies.

Of course the history of Ukraine is very complex, and I never denied that.

 

"Omeljan Pritsak : Rus' ....mutually antagonistic, clans of charismatic warriors and traders who formed wide-ranging networks across the North and Baltic Seas.[22][23] They were a "multi-ethnic, multilingual and non-territorial community of sea nomads and trading settlements" that contained numerous Norsemen—but equally Slavs, Balts, and Finns.[22]"

 

Probably to compensate for the attitude the Germanic speaking people had towards the Slavs. The Russians never lived under Austro/Germanic dominance, so to them western standards, whether they be cultural, political, racial or what not, are not seen as being better and greater than that of anyone else's...

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Yeah right! Especially when the Soros one world order freaks are using them in their first line of battle towards their 'ideological' adversary the Russian Federation.

I know, but Russia does have a claim on Crimea because of the Byzantine Empire. This is probably why Catherine the Great gave the cities Greek names.

It's a tragic history. When someone told Putin it's a cursed land, he corrected him and said it's not a cursed land, it's a martyred land.

 

A lot of Hungarians who are not Slavic are also obsessed with genetics, anthropology, and ethnicity.

As for war with Russia, it's a potential threat, but the current threat is multiculturalism.

Europe will simply cease to exist, if we continue to have all these Islamists continue to flood in.

 

Are you saying it's okay for the Azov Nazis to massacre them?...

Putin tried with the Minsk agreement to keep Ukraine intact, but it didn't work. Poroshenko would start the war whenever Biden and now McCain visited him ...with some money for arms of course. Never for the people who were suffering.

The right thing would be for Putin not just to take in refugees and give aid and feed the people, but should help them with full military force and end their suffering once and for all. But not only in the Donbas, but in the rest of Novorussiya as well.

Maybe even enter Kiev and reinstall Yanukovich since he was the legally elected president. When Yulia Tymoshenko went to Western Ukraine, she was told even there that life was so much better under him and that they wouldn't mind having him back.

 

Where do you gather they want to be part of Russia, was there a poll? One that's independently done, not sponsored by Sputnik of fort russ. And most people there prefer to be part of Ukraine , not like the russian terrorists there trying to stir up crap. Where was the " millions" at focus or hello moto funerals, more fake news!

 

the Nazis are the one who invaded Ukraine

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this is very ironic, as in another post you justified anti-Semitic attacks in Russia by claiming the victims may have been Communists.

 

Lol, so in other words he should invade full force and annex, isn't that what the "Nazis" d I'd, ever stop to think the insurgency that would happen, ever stop to think that ever since the collapse of the SU, there's a new generation of the population that might not be too receptive to invading force, oh wait you call that democracy. Only way for yanukovich to be reinstalled and kept there would be by massive military force, something like in Crimea. Yanukovich wouldn't last a week if that was tried. Btw, novorussia is a dead concept, seems only you use it here.

 

So perhaps they should idolize figures like Dzerzhinsky(NKVD), Lazar kaganovich(holodomor butcher, since you seem so convinced of there ukies Nazis.

 

Muscovites seem to have written the book on stupid. How can an "empire" collapse with all those nukes? Epic!

 

This Nazis thing with you is overblown, I think you're infatuated with them. Do you actually know what a..nazi ..is? See a shrink maybe?

 

Btw..Donbass is Ukraine.

 

I'll tell you a secret. Half of Russia has Ukrainian surnames. And half of Ukraine has Russian ones. Fedor Emelyanenko is a native of Lugansk region, and yes - he considers himself Russian.

Yes, Soviet scientists were smart guys. Ukrainian ones are not.

 

Dispute aside: if side that captured water plant have disturbed it work, it should repair it. Separatists, or not, loyal to Ukraine or lingering to Russia, military of civilians, they do need a drinkable water. One, who claims to be acting lawfuly, does not takes away from people such necessity as clean water.

 

Who was governor and mayor in Flint for the past 8 years?

 

Russell Texas Bentley

http://www.russelltexasbentley.com/

 

What does Russia want in Ukraine? Russia's economy is poor.. they don't have much in the way of population.... Why would they want more land?

 

Margot, events on Russian Federation - Ukraine border come not from desire of one or other country for land, they come from desire of people living on that land to beloing to one, or other country. This creates a complicated situation, where interests of people collide with interests of states, Ukraine and RF, as well as interests of NATO and RF, who have political rivalry over East Europe. Also there come interests of citizens of Ukraine and RF, from whose money forms budget, part of which goes to finance the military presence and diplomatic dispute, over the questioned regions.

All that leads to people's democratic choise being perverted in casus for sanctions and military operations between neighbouring countries of Ukraine and RF.

 

man even word - referendum is a nonsense under foreign occupation

 

what do you know about mentality and form of governance of creator of ulus of juchi (self - renamed in 18.c "rossiya" ) genghis khan ?