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Who benefits the most from blocking the Keystone Pipeline?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by TheGreatSatan, Jan 20, 2012.

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Who benefits the most from blocking the Keystone Pipeline?

  1. The American People... Because oil is the devil

    4 vote(s)
    11.8%

  2. The Obama... Because he will be seen as all wise and caring

    2 vote(s)
    5.9%

  3. Canada... Because they won't waste there money on a boondoggle pipeline

    1 vote(s)
    2.9%

  4. China... Canada is gunna sell there oil to somebody

    9 vote(s)
    26.5%

  5. OPEC... High oil prices makes them happy

    4 vote(s)
    11.8%

  6. Democrats... Because Americans feel safer knowing they are protected from evil pipelines

    1 vote(s)
    2.9%

  7. Republicans... Americans will see the blocking of the pipeline as political and elect Republicans

    6 vote(s)
    17.6%

  8. Polar Bears... Cheap energy leads to more use, more use leads to "global warming"

    1 vote(s)
    2.9%

  9. Green Energy Companys.... High energy prices "force" people to invest in solar/wind

    6 vote(s)
    17.6%

  10. Unions... Because they have enough work already.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. TheGreatSatan

    TheGreatSatan Banned

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    if this is true, I agree. But I got a feeling theres a bit more too it.
     
    TheGreatSatan, Feb 25, 2015
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    I am impressed. Really I am, there is hope for you.
     
    Casper, Feb 25, 2015
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    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Theft is not a left/right issue.

     
    Toefoot, Feb 25, 2015
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    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe, tomorrow we get snow so I will have time to read up on it.

     
    Toefoot, Feb 25, 2015
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    Like what?

    I gave you a link to an on-going court case.

    And, it references the fact that it has been an issue in the Texas legislature.

    So, what "more to it" do you think there might be?


    You were suggesting that the pipeline could go around those who don't want their property condemned, and I showed you that is not even SLIGHTLY the way it works.

    In fact, the company has already put pipeline on this person's property under the eminent domain rights corporations have to HER property. She couldn't even get the courts to have the pipeline company wait for a final appeal.
     
    WillReadmore, Feb 25, 2015
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    Don't know, but you can bet your arse it ain't going to be American consumers.
     
    Phoebe Bump, Feb 25, 2015
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    The people who benefit the most are the people of Nebraska and surrounding states, whose REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR started the movement to block it. Seems these people don't want to see their water supply ruined for eternity by a pipeline that merely knocks a few miles off shipping it through the already existing pipeline network and will only be economically viable.for a few years and them abandoned when it becomes unprofitable.

    They must be OBama-Commies, right? There couldn't be any other reason to oppose a pipeline ... we know this because Free Republic, the Koch Brothers, and Town Hall says so, along with Congressmen and Senators who get big campaign donations and jobs for their buddies from oil companies and the Koch Brothers, completely objective non-partisan interests like those ...
     
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    They aren't going to benefit from it if its built, so this isn't a point.
     
    Strasser, Feb 25, 2015
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    Awesome. I see the light. I too now am against the Keystone pipeline. Anytime a government wants someones land for something, I will fight with you. Carry on the fight my brothers ;)
     
    TheGreatSatan, Feb 25, 2015
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    apearently american consumers who don't want there property taken by the "Global Socialist Empire" win out.
     
    TheGreatSatan, Feb 25, 2015
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    Awesome my brother. I'm glad you agree with me. The next time the "Global Socialist Empire" trys to take private property in the name of the "greater good" I know I can count on your support in the fight ;)
     
    TheGreatSatan, Feb 25, 2015
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    republicans are pushing the "Global Socialist Empire", Ironic it is
     
    FreshAir, Feb 25, 2015
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    you mean the movement to globalize and socialize all the stuff on Earth? I thought republicans were free market liberty types and liberals wanted government to control everything.
     
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    Full stop. How would Keystone XL increase the supply of energy in the US when the oil is intended for export out of the US?
     
    Questerr, Feb 25, 2015
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    TheGreatSatan Banned

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    well, on Earth, there is a global oil market. Putting another supplier of that oil to the world supplie helps the world, not just selfish, evil, Americans
     
    TheGreatSatan, Feb 25, 2015
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    More petrodollar will be traded which is the true currency america operates in. Just a thought.
     
    Riot, Feb 25, 2015
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    i am unconvinced this helps or hurts the USA in any way.

    the oil is to be sold overseas.

    the pipeline will pay no taxes to the USA or states.

    pipeline will long-term employ very few people.

    short term employment is 5,000 people, which is less than a drop in the bucket.
     
    Ronstar, Feb 25, 2015
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    so its neutral?

    and to the US. We all by our oil from the same market.

    LOL, We tax everything. How can an oil pipeline escape the "greater good"

    jobs are for poor people. who cares right?
     
    TheGreatSatan, Feb 25, 2015
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    This falsely assumes supply is growing at fast as demand.
     
    Questerr, Feb 25, 2015
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    None of the above. Warren Buffet does since he has invested heavily in railways and transport of oil by rail has exploded since 2009.
     
    Hoosier8, Feb 25, 2015
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    I shoulda made Buffet an option
     
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    You make up your own mind. But Warren is a huge personal donor to Obama and the progressive movement. Knowing that Obama's decision puts more millions into Buffets pockets.
    Kinda reminds me of the monsanto bill. They are also a huge donor to Obama and obama signed that bill without any question. While stacking the FDA with monsanto lawyers and Former CEO's that makes judgments affecting monsanto. Don't know about you but I see a pattern.
     
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    Obama's buddy, Warren Buffet benfits the most.
     
    Bluespade, Feb 25, 2015
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    Whine, snivel whine complain. Do it all again.

    What's a matta? Got no stomach for action, or actually trying to confuse people into thinking there are only problems?

    Try understanding a threat to your rights and freedoms, then try understanding a strategy to restore government under the 1787 constitution. Tryunderstanding the fact that Americans must be unified to do anything.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...nstitutional-threat-thread-real-defenses.html

    See the second post for a state by state strategy.
     
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    People who don't get their property seized by the state?
     
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