Who benefits the most from blocking the Keystone Pipeline?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by TheGreatSatan, Jan 20, 2012.

?

Who benefits the most from blocking the Keystone Pipeline?

  1. The American People... Because oil is the devil

    4 vote(s)
    11.8%
  2. The Obama... Because he will be seen as all wise and caring

    2 vote(s)
    5.9%
  3. Canada... Because they won't waste there money on a boondoggle pipeline

    1 vote(s)
    2.9%
  4. China... Canada is gunna sell there oil to somebody

    9 vote(s)
    26.5%
  5. OPEC... High oil prices makes them happy

    4 vote(s)
    11.8%
  6. Democrats... Because Americans feel safer knowing they are protected from evil pipelines

    1 vote(s)
    2.9%
  7. Republicans... Americans will see the blocking of the pipeline as political and elect Republicans

    6 vote(s)
    17.6%
  8. Polar Bears... Cheap energy leads to more use, more use leads to "global warming"

    1 vote(s)
    2.9%
  9. Green Energy Companys.... High energy prices "force" people to invest in solar/wind

    6 vote(s)
    17.6%
  10. Unions... Because they have enough work already.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Trinnity

    Trinnity Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2011
    Messages:
    10,645
    Likes Received:
    1,138
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You don't know what you don't know. McCarthy was right.

    We've had communists operating in America since shortly after the communist takover of Russia in 1917. If you fault McCarthy for anything, it was exploiting it for political gain. But he was right.

    Observe:

     
  2. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2011
    Messages:
    20,420
    Likes Received:
    106
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Oil executives benefit the most. That's clear. We need to find alternative energy sources and quit looking for more ways to depend on dinosaur bones. That's also clear. We need guaranteed fresh water supplies. That's clear. I don't want the same investors poisoning the water supply, for profit of oil, and then likely selling us fresh water too,(that many fat cats are now investing in) after they screw up the present source for profit.
     
  3. TheGreatSatan

    TheGreatSatan Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2009
    Messages:
    21,269
    Likes Received:
    21,244
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So The Obama blocked the pipeline to help oil executives?

    I agree. How about increasing our energy supply with nuclear power? With nuclear power, fossil fuels will become obsolete. Everything could be electric. We wouldn't need giant strip mines and huge coal plants burning zillions of tons of coal to provide our energy needs. This would make things like electric cars/heating affordable to the commen man.
     
  4. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2010
    Messages:
    34,039
    Likes Received:
    429
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Going through with the pipeline, will only generate profit for a very few; while the risks will be shouldered by mostly ALL.

    You nailed it again! I agree.
     
  5. FearandLoathing

    FearandLoathing Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2011
    Messages:
    4,463
    Likes Received:
    520
    Trophy Points:
    113


    What a great idea!

    I can't wait to see planes, trucks, trains, buses and cars being powered by nuclear power plants.
     
  6. FearandLoathing

    FearandLoathing Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2011
    Messages:
    4,463
    Likes Received:
    520
    Trophy Points:
    113


    You are right. And the 12,000 people who get employment in the US and the 8,000 people in Canada who get up graded job skills and jobs will only get wages and benefits.

    And that's totally unnecessary now that US unemployment is getting to close to 8%.


    Kill it forever.
     
  7. JamesDF

    JamesDF Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2012
    Messages:
    193
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    0
    You're incorrect. The study (which was done by TransCanada making it highly suspect as being biased) that concluded that the pipeline would create tens of thousands of jobs in America included jobs created in India and china, it also included jobs that have already been created from building other pipelines.
    The study also failed to include any of the effects of oil spills and pollution.
    The only independent study done on the pipeline concluded that due to oil spills and pollution the pipeline would have a net negative effect on the American economy
    http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/globallaborinstitute/research/upload/GLI_KeystoneXL_Reportpdf.pdf
     
  8. darckriver

    darckriver New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2010
    Messages:
    7,773
    Likes Received:
    239
    Trophy Points:
    0
    You'll have to wait a while because it'll never happen. OK - say fusion becomes a feasible technology and eventually could be scaled down to such small demands as individual transportation devices. I'll take a rough guess and say that it could be a possibility in around 500 to 1000 years. But a "nuke-car" would cost tens of thousands of lifetime incomes for the average wage earner at that time. Only the SUPER-RICH could possibly afford one. But there won't be any super rich in existence 500 years from now - not even any rich - maybe no wage earners at all. These will have long since been eliminated by brilliant future Progressives, employing ever new and improved versions of their highly regarded class warfare & wealth redistribution strategies. In fact, by 2611 only the ruling elite - the "DemoEcoCrats" - will even be able to afford the super-eco-friendly Flintstonemobile (see artists depiction below). By 3011 Progressive mutants will have reduced humanity to that of a few hunter-gatherers living in very energy efficient and progressive caves where they will make unintelligible but always politically correct grunts back and forth at each other - (see bottom artists depiction).

    2611 - Progressive Transportation Technology
    [​IMG]

    3011 Technology - Decisions in Progressive Healthcare
    [​IMG]
     
  9. PatrickT

    PatrickT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2009
    Messages:
    16,593
    Likes Received:
    415
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Obama pandering to the environmentalist socialists. They're a demographic in play.
     
  10. Margot

    Margot Account closed, not banned

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    Messages:
    62,072
    Likes Received:
    345
    Trophy Points:
    0
    That's not what is going on............
     
  11. Iron River

    Iron River Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2009
    Messages:
    7,082
    Likes Received:
    161
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Firstly, haven't you heard that there is a $7,500.00 rebate on some electric cars? Your memory is very convenient. Secondly, even with the credits the cars are way more costly than gasoline cars. The batteries are not only very expensive when you have to replace them and you will, but the batteries are extremely dangerous. Lithium batteries can catch fire if overheated and they will burn if the lithium gets wet. I think you will see that mile per mile the electric cars will be KILLING their occupants more than gasoline cars are.

    Even the Tesla super car gets a rebate.

    My wife worked out the a few years ago and she had brown-outs every day or two, so you might need to get your head examined if you can't remember two years back.

    Your memory is gone and you think that politics has nothing to do with Obama trying to kill the pipe line. You might want to call 911, before you forget that your brain is damaged.
     
  12. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2011
    Messages:
    20,420
    Likes Received:
    106
    Trophy Points:
    0


    Well, he tried pandering to the right wing during his first couple years...it didn't work so, he switched. Smart man.
     
  13. saintmichaeldefendthem

    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2011
    Messages:
    8,393
    Likes Received:
    144
    Trophy Points:
    0
    You're absolutely correct Trinnity, as usual. Even though McCarthy was proven right, the Left keeps invoking his name to ward off compelling arguments based on fact. They still insist that McCarthy is a badge of shame for conservatives even when it's been proven incontrovertably that their communist friends really were infiltrating Hollywood.
     
  14. TheGreatSatan

    TheGreatSatan Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2009
    Messages:
    21,269
    Likes Received:
    21,244
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Turns out Warren Buffet might be the one benifiting the most from The Obama axing the pipeline. Now Canada is going to build a pipeline to there west coast to sell oil to China. You liberal drones defending this should be ashamed.
     
  15. TheGreatSatan

    TheGreatSatan Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2009
    Messages:
    21,269
    Likes Received:
    21,244
    Trophy Points:
    113
    LOL, ya... when he had the house and senate? Thats when he panderd to the right? lol, now that he lost the house to the right he's gunna play hardball now? Sounds like a dumb ass to me. Seems The Obama can do no wrong in your eyes. Everything is always someone elses fault... Bush, republicans, Tea Party...
     
  16. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2011
    Messages:
    20,420
    Likes Received:
    106
    Trophy Points:
    0


    Isn't it?


    I think the poll is pretty telling. China and the republicans benefit most from selling our oil abroad. Pretty accurate!
     
  17. TheGreatSatan

    TheGreatSatan Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2009
    Messages:
    21,269
    Likes Received:
    21,244
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Then why is The Obama blocking it if it benifits China and republicans? Did you see my post the Warren Buffet owns the railroad that the oil travels on now and if they build the pipeline, they won't use the trains anymore.
     
  18. Margot

    Margot Account closed, not banned

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    Messages:
    62,072
    Likes Received:
    345
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Hahahaha.. that train business is silly.. Its propaganda.
     
  19. TheGreatSatan

    TheGreatSatan Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2009
    Messages:
    21,269
    Likes Received:
    21,244
    Trophy Points:
    113
    sure it is... :ignore:
     
  20. Margot

    Margot Account closed, not banned

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    Messages:
    62,072
    Likes Received:
    345
    Trophy Points:
    0
    All this pipeline does is by-pass our Mid West refineries .. Its an export pipeline to the Free Trade Zone in Texas.

    They will sell and ship refined products overseas because they can get a higher priced and avoid taxes.
     
  21. TheGreatSatan

    TheGreatSatan Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2009
    Messages:
    21,269
    Likes Received:
    21,244
    Trophy Points:
    113
    so by making them take the train we get taxes Warren Buffet pays running his railroad. So if they build it threw America, they'll sell it to China, and if they build it threw Canada, they'll sell it to China... So lets avoid making money and jobs with a pipeline threw the US... good plan :twisted:
     
  22. Margot

    Margot Account closed, not banned

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    Messages:
    62,072
    Likes Received:
    345
    Trophy Points:
    0
    The train business is a JOKE.. its propaganda..
     
  23. TheGreatSatan

    TheGreatSatan Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2009
    Messages:
    21,269
    Likes Received:
    21,244
    Trophy Points:
    113
    LOL, "Does not compute.. propaganda.. The Obama is clean and pure like wind drivin snow.. Does not compute.. train = joke.. malfunction..malfunction..malfunction... danger Will Robinson"
     
  24. Margot

    Margot Account closed, not banned

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    Messages:
    62,072
    Likes Received:
    345
    Trophy Points:
    0
    This bitumen is like brownies.. You can cut it with a knife. It has to be diluted and pressurized to flow thru a pipeline and these TransCanada folks have had 12 spills in the past year. That is a POOR record.. They are still trying to clean up the mess in the Yellowstone River.
     
  25. TheGreatSatan

    TheGreatSatan Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2009
    Messages:
    21,269
    Likes Received:
    21,244
    Trophy Points:
    113
    so you're worried about the pipeline leaking? Does that happen? I'm sure when you picture the pipeline in your head you see the evil black snake lookin thing, dripping oil everywhere all of the pristene enviroment, and in the corner, Bambi is dieing from cancer...
     

Share This Page