Why Obama...

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by DBM aka FDS, Oct 24, 2012.

  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    If that is the best you can do it's no wonder that government bureaucrats are consider the second worst scum after civil lawyers in the states. Obama care isn't saving anyone. Most of it hasn't gone into effect yet. Yeah government workers are doing just fine undr obama life for everyone else blows.
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    Agreed…


    Heck no… I remember prices jumping THE DAY AFTER Bush number one became President – the stock market went berserk because the world market didn’t want to deal with a Republican President… Remember that? It was CRAZY!!


    Both Bush’s did… During Reagan I wasn’t allowed to vote so I really can’t say… We don’t have the people we need. When the Right of Way person retires, we won’t have a right of way person for federal lands… The endangered species person… nobody…

    We don’t have enough to do our jobs properly… I post here because my work is so piled up – I could care less… 50% of the people who work here are looking for another job on the state/county or city level… It’s getting REALLY BAD!!! Did you know we don’t even have officers here in Oregon (Land Management) to kick the pot growing illegal Hispanics off of our Gov’t Land…


    AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM!!! No President has done anything to you… What do you want him to do? Wash your car?... here is what a President can do – get people to kill people… Veto… “ASK” department heads to do things… and “try” to pass laws… the President is pretty much a nobody…

    It’s the employees that make this America work… and why it’s failing is because there are no worker bees to get the jobs done!!! Congress, the House is what runs this country – not the President, and if he doesn’t get the cooperation and they are doing what they are right now – acting like a bunch of (*)(*)(*)(*)ing children, it won’t matter WHO is in there… If Romney goes in the Dems will pay them back for not cooperating and sit with their arms folded and we’ll get another 4 years of crap…

    NO – he is of his word and is trying to pass the things he promised to the American People, BUT the House and Senate want to add on all this crap and he’s not having it. About the lies… Come on now… This was classic!!

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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    No... Those are our Active claims... We have about 170.000 total.... and they will find the manpower by not hiring, but pulling someone from other duties...
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    Exactly - we should just pull out and let people put mustaches on the Presidents at Mount Rushmore huh... Since you don't want to pay us...

    And your description sounds like what happened to me when I worked for Kodak... It was no big deal to a 20 hour day at least three times a year. In fact, a kid died, got hit by a bus because he just worked 17 hours and was basically sleep walking...

    Why are half the Republicans whining and the other half saying get a job...?

    Do you vote Republican? Because if you do - I suggest you do what the rest of them are suggesting!!
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    It's a risky choice.... Either get underpaid and work for the Gov't in a "specified" job OR - go on the outside and make ridiculous money in spurts... and based on the economy...

    It's a life choice... I wasn't liking it about 15 years ago when my friends were making 150k and was was at 50k... But, now (there has been a freeze on raises mind you) they are (some) unemployed and the rest are making far less - only two are still making big money...
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    Then get a Gov't job and stop being jealous... :)
     
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    Well since Obama came in millions of Americans have government jobs. Oh wait those are WELFARE recipients not workers.
     
  8. Lee S

    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    I didn't say that at all. That was a product of your fertile imagination. If you work, you should be paid. Not over-payed.

    Not even close. Were you at risk of losing everything you owned when you worked for Kodak? No. Did you spend every last dime you had in order to start a company? No. Did you get paid overtime for working 20 hours a day? Yes. When you own your own business, you get paid nothing for working overtime. There is no comparison that you can or will understand.

    I am not Republican. I do vote for those candidates who will make my life easier regardless of party. I already voted and I did vote for two Democrats.

    Look, you seem like a nice enough person, but I feel obligated to let you know that you have no clue what it is like to start or run a business. That's alright, neither does the President or the Democratic Party.
     
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    The federal govt. is going to shrink. But those who lose their federal jobs will find work in the food service industry. There are plenty of jobs in food service. If you want to survive, then take whatever work is available.
     
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    ...even if it's only 3 cents a week...hey..."better than nothing".
     
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    Americans who fail to improve their skills have in effect chosen to compete directly with low skilled third worlders for industrial era jobs. Only education and experience allows a worker to "add value" to a product when it passes through her hands. I didn't make these rules....external reality made up the rules.
     
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    Saying Obama is slippery and dishonest while voting for the guy who lied about a marathon time and another guy with 9 different stances on abortion?

    #makesense
     
  13. garyd

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    Lied or misremembered. Adn there are only about 4 stnces possible on abortion.

    I already had a government Job it sucked thanks. And everyone can't work for the government. Some one has to pay the (*)(*)(*)(*) bills.
     
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    My wife works for the government and most of them have little use for Obama. Many will vote for him because they have less use for Romney but Obama is the lesser of two evils to them not the greater good.
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    Hardy har har....
     
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    You work they dont. Their job is to keep the others paying taxes.
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    It is a known fact that Gov’t employees are GROSSLY underpaid…


    We did NOT get paid overtime, we had to “volunteer” to work, but if you didn’t, you’d get fired…


    That’s great… You are like me then. We need to put people in office that will make a difference and have our needs…


    Thank you…. I am a nice guy! :) An you are correct. I have no clue on how to run a business. I am a biologist that works for the man… But, to say the “whole” Democratic party doesn’t is just wrong…
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    I TOTALLY 100% AGREE WITH THIS POST!!! If Mitt gets into office we have no clue what he will do, but Obama is "safe" to us... She is absolutely correct!!!
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    I don't follow...
     
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    You were laughing. I was posting something to make you laugh more. I do understand your position and though some components of government only grow no matter what other parts get cut. For you is is about preserving your job. For others it is about keeping the tit exposed.
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    I couldn't agree with you more.... There are people here that are useless... BUT, there are people, like me that are needed. There are civilians that depend on me! I call them on a regular. Make sure they are well, that the Gov't (district offices) aren't screwing them, because people are human and even if your an (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) - we still need to follow regulations. I am honest, and truthful. If I leave - I know about 5 people that will be influenced by my departure. NOW, if this bastard I work with leaves - it will be a blessing. But, if a RIF happens, I am the newest employee as everyone is about to retire. So, guess who gets the ax? ME!!! My veterans status will not help me... I will be GONE!!!

    I CAN'T AND WILL NOT EVER VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN AS LONG AS I WORK FOR THE GOV'T!!!!!!
     
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    are you speaking of Romney? sounds like it, they don't call the man etcha-sketch for nothing
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    How own party called him a liar... EVERYONE did... Who is the preacher that called him a liar during the GOP race?
     
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    I voted last week and I voted for Romney. Obama's immigration reform is nothing more than making 12 million illegals, citizens, at a time we have 20 million Americans hunting for jobs or only working part time. They would wind up in direct competition with most of the jobs Americans are after. They will only add to the unemployment numbers and add millions more to the welfare rolls we have to pay for. You tell me that is good for the country.

    I also voted against Obama for his policy of wanting to put our biggest energy industry out of business. Which will lay off thousands of people and drive up electric rates at a time many are having a hard time paying for them now. How is that also good for our economy?

    You may worry about what Romney MIGHT DO. I am worried about what Obama has said what he will do, along with what he hasn't said.

    Romney also has a medical plan, which is the reason I think most are voting for Obama.
     
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    I have not checked in about a decade, but you may be surprised to see public and private jobs pays scales closer than you think.

    I had about 20 years in the private sector as a contractor to various government agencies from federal down to local levels. We worked very close with these agencies, having our offices at these locations. There was a time government roles of say,an engineer paid much less as compared to a private position of same qualifications but at the same time retirement and other benefits most always were better in public. Before I retired, the gaps between public and private salaries had all but disappeared, at least in the agencies I was working.

    Government needs to tell us the truth. Obama lies to often, easily, and has no problem throwing anyone under the proverbial bus in the process. All in the open like we are too blind to see it. I don't trust him.

    Obama touts things like getting no help from republicans, yet seems to enjoy setting the rules of the game so he gets what he wants before negotiation begins. Example: he says he puts a bi-partisan panel together to fix budget, yet forces the solution to include Obamacare as is. When the republicans won't play, he calls foul. Politics we don't need.

    Obama says he'll now cut oil imports and increase our independence from foreign oil, just like Romney, except Romney includes increased US Production, Obama does not. One way will stabilize or reduce prices, the other will skyrocket them.

    We don't need anymore Obama.
     

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