Will Trump's loyal base stay with him now?

Your comment was irrelevant to the post you are replying to. It's best to quit while you are behind.

 

This is interesting. Trump fans are largely ignoring the fact that their hero is dealing with liberals. They are dealing with extraneous issues, hoping to change the subject.

I am not about to let that happen. Read my post. It got worst for Trump today. He can't make up his mind on the Dreamers and he made a complete fool of himself.

I can't help but wonder why the Republicans are putting up with him. 3 1/2 more years of this? Wow!

 

Trump is trying to get our Congressional representatives to man up and do their job. The Presidency is supposed to be administrative, not legislative.

 

Only to an extremely narrow thinker...and it is not appropriate for Trump to take responsibility for what is the job of Congress. Obama made it too easy on them, and they have gotten lazy.

 

I didn't vote for Trump, could not stomach his personality and his outrageous statements. Certainly couldn't vote for Hillary for a list of reasons, so voted for the guy who didn't know about Allepo.

I would think he is losing some of his most hidebound rightist support, but may well be gaining support from the more centrist silent majority types.
Currently he seems to be willing to compromise and try to work across the aisle, something our previous president could not do. Perhaps this is all part of "the art of the Deal"?

 

You voted for the trash candidate.

 

No..........we took the trash out to the curb.

 

Sorry, but contrary to your attempt to rationalize Trump's incompetence, it is the highest ranking elected leaders of each party to play a constructive and engaged leadership role in pursuing their agenda.

Trump did not do that. Not only that, he doesn't seem to understand that was his job.

Not that he's really all that interested in the job. He's interested in the trappings and being on television.

He also does not seem to understand or care that taking all sides on every issue wears thin, or that denigrating your own party colleagues is not good for your cause.

Nor does he seem to understand that Mitch McConnell holds the power of life or death over him.

 

You haven't been correct on a single thing since I've been a member. I find it utterly ironic that you call another member gullible. LOL!

 

That's probably the dimmest bulb I've seen since Hurricane Irma cut the power off. But I'm not surprised. Not in the least.

The next time you find yourself engaged in this debate and someone tells you that you that taxes must be raised to pay down the debt, you can refer them to this article. In conclusion, as JFK, Reagan, and George W. Bush understood, reducing taxes has a stimulative effect on economic activity which leads to an increase in government reciepts. You can't argue with history!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikepa...uts-increase-government-revenue/#686a4d4e4bf2

 

No they're not. They understand that President Trump has a certain number of things he wants to see accomplished, and he's not above dealing with Dems in order to get these done. Wouldn't it be interesting if he's able to form a coalition with 30 moderate Republicans and 30 moderate Democrats, and left to partisan establishment weenies to go pound sand? That would be just fine by me.

As to the so called Dreamers, the President understands that it is Congress that needs to address the issue. President Obama understood this, right up to the point when he decided to ignore this fact and start acting like some kind of emperor, issuing edicts in a high and mighty fashion. Hopefully President Trump doesn't fall into the same trap.

 

You aren't going to get partisan hacks to even begin to understand what you just wrote, and NEVER the alt left. Even saw some on the right freak out today for the silliest of reasons. Trump is quick on the trigger with Twitter but I am willing to bet the Democrats are going to either have to fish or cut bait on this Dreamer thing. We WILL get the Wall in return for a path to citizenship.

 

What a laughably, transparently dishonest thread from a spammer of such. Attempts to conflate actual Trump quotes with white supremacist quotes and falls on its face. Counterproductive, as the election proved, so do keep it up, and keep losing.

Trump won college educated whites. Trump won the top three income quintiles. Middle American taxpayers put Trump in office, that's his "base," not the 2000 or so KKK and Nazis in the U.S.

 

Correction: establishment politicians in both parties have been denigrating the President, and the Republicans weren't able to see to a repeal of Obamacare, something that every last one of them has been talking about for seven plus years now. Is it any wonder that the President has decided to try going a different route?

As to Mitch McConnell, you have things backwards: if the President succeeds at working with some of the Democrats (the non-partisan, non-hacky ones), McConnell and Ryan will find themselves to be politically neutered, which is as it should be. Either they lead, or they should get out of the way. Politics as usual is NOT what got President Trump elected; he knows it, his supporters know it, and most members of Congress know it (even the ones who won't admit to knowing it). These are interesting times, no?

 

Trump is not bound by traditional party politics as usually defined; that is not what he was elected to do.

Additionally, the US is not supposed to be ruled exclusively by political parties. Once their candidates are elected, they are supposed to represent the best interests of the whole country, not just their own parties or even just their own constituencies.

Wake up. You have a twisted view of what our government should look like, based on overly politicized media and propaganda.

You don't seem to understand and/ or care what's really going on.


As for Trump's "life or death", I hope you're not getting into implied death threats now.

 

Merwin my friend, you are wasting your time arguing with partisan hacks. I'll be honest, I can't tell if either of those two are Republican or Democrat. They are two sides of the same coin, establishment hacks.
Do you know either of their affiliations? I can't tell. It's the same old crap (SOS) and regurgitated horse dung distributed...........while Rome burns in the meantime.

 

^ I guess Jack doesn't have jack to add?

 

Trump supports a deal for the DACA folks with more border security, but no funding for the wall.

 

Exactly. I have often thought that, for example, if a person is elected to Congress on a 60-40 vote, they still have an obligation to represent the 40% who didn't vote for them. Because once the vote has been taken, that representative is now the representative of their entire district or state, not simply their Party. They are now the representative of the 60% and the 40%. It's a shame most politicians don't realize that.

So if Trump works with Democrats to get things done, I'm fine with that. Democrats are Americans too, and the last time I looked Trump was the President of the United States of America, not the President of the Ruling Party. There are a lot of Republicans in Congress working against Trump - because he's not from the exclusive Washington Beltway club - anyway, and those Republicans will sabotage Republican-only legislation just to prevent Trump from signing it. The health care failure was a perfect example of that. It wouldn't surprise me if they will sabotage border security, tax reform, and maybe even our national security just to make sure Trump is denied any victories on anything.

Seth

 

Are you wishing on a star? Not reality.

 

Sell me that bridge, I'm sure you'll figure things out sooner or later.

 

If Transgenders being able to openly enlist in the military was SOOOO important, why did Obama wait until just last year to sign an EO making it legal? And why did said EO not go into effect until this year? He was in office for 8 years, why didn't he do that in his first 8 weeks?

(In case you are not aware, the military is very picky when it comes to medical standards. Insulin dependent diabetic? Not eligible. On ADHD meds? Not eligible. Why would people needing a lifetime of HRT be special enough to be exempt?)

 

I can't speculate on what the younger posters here think. You'd have to ask them.

By the way, it's interesting to read that you seek compromise. Which Democratic agenda do you support specifically that you want Trump to embrace?

 

That was an interesting post.

Donald Trump, seeing the polls and the blowback he got from his entirely unnecessary decision to reverse DACA, reaches to the Democratic leadership to reverse his position. (or, if you're Paul Ryan, Trump appears to, at least).

Of course, Trump had wanted to appeal to his angry white base by overturning DACA, but he didn't want to appear as though he was the guy who did it. So he made Sessions do it. Sessions, whose deep drawl and long history of racist stances, was the perfect image to appeal to that part of the Trump base. Which is why Trump used him.

It was never Trump's job to do anything about DACA. It was always Congress' job. Inserting himself into it, was totally unnecessary. But it was a great way to appeal to the racists in his base.

It is interesting to see you rationalize Trump's have-it-both-ways play.

You absolve him of responsibility for having raised the issue in the first place.

You ignore the fact that the agenda of the coalition that Trump is appearing to be trying to build is far different than the one Trump campaigned on.

I guess as long as you have a buffoon who plays the strong man, beats his chest, and talks like the loudmouth at the end of the bar, you're thrilled.

Trump stands for nothing. He's a cheap TV celebrity playing at being President.

That much is obvious to everyone but the blind sheep that worship every demogogue that comes along.