Your Electric Bills To Get Sharply Higher…

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  1. Marine1

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    You think so? Come live in the South or South West like Arizona when the temp. gets up to 115-124 in June and July and see how much less people will use. It's been around 105-108 here now the last couple of weeks. Electricity is something people have to have and there is little you can do to cut back. I have already cut as much as I can afford to with energy saving light bulbs, solar tubes, hybrid hot water heater, solar sun screens,repainted my house bright white to reflect the heat and have white shingles.
     
  2. Consmike

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    How will demand for electricity drop? Everyone uses it and needs it. hospitals, businesses, homes.

    The only thing you can possibly do is watch less tv or turn off your AC. You need Electric to heat your homes, and run equipment. What next, everyone stops using their refrigeration and freezers and we go back to the old ice boxes?
     
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    Every year, we stand it colder in the winter and hotter in the summer and it still goes up anyway.
     
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  5. Marine1

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    Let me add to that. I have replaced my wooden doors with steel insulated doors with double pane glass and installed wooden shutters inside to shut out the sun. With all that, my electric bill only fell about $35.00 a month. I'll never get my investment back in electric savings.
     
  6. Junkieturtle

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    I'm happy to pay more for electricity if it means we'll start using methods of energy production that don't destroy the Earth. Maybe that will help spur the alternative energy market in this country more.
     
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    Then you'll be overjoyed when you pay more for EVERYTHING.
     
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    How (*)(*)(*)(*)ing arrogant....what about folks who are barely scraping by...who make just enough to pay rent and utilities, provide food for their brood, and put gas in their cars to get back and forth to work?

    yes...exactly...more government subsidies and dependency. Pray tell, which ideology/political party stands to benefit from such?
     
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    Let me add to that some more. I am sure I told you I replaced all my appliances the last two years. The new ones are all energy compliant. I even replaced the eight outlet power management surge protectors that cuts electricity to all appliance hooked up to it, so you don't have to unplug everything your not using. Still my savings is only about $35.00 a month and most of that is from the GE hybrid hot water heater. Don't waste your money on double pane insulated windows. It's take 50 years to get your money back on them.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well I'm glad your willing to see your electric bills go up to almost 80%. People here in hot Arizona, Texas and etc. that already have summer electric bills in the 2-5 hundred dollar range, depending on the house, might balk at that.
     
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    Indeed, this would amount to a serious kick in the teeth for the poor, and there will be a lot less disposable money floating around to donate to Energy Share programs.

    You gotta hand it to Obama and his bumpkins on this one - could they possibly screw the people they pretend to defend any worse than this? I'm not sure that's even humanly possible...
     
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    I imagine you are suggesting voting Republican? :lol:

    EIGHT YEARS of an "oil man" Republican president and we still had higher gas prices happen from Bush than have occurred under Obama. And an economic disaster!
     
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    You think I'm coming at this from a position of luxury, from a position where I don't have to worry about bills and gas and food? I assure you, I'm not rich, nor is my family is a position where we can make willy nilly statements like this without feeling the impact of it. I made my statement despite the economic situation of my family because it's the right thing to do for the country and for the environment. Take your pretend outrage somewhere else.

    The more we pollute the Earth, the more land that will get contaminated, which will seep those toxic chemicals into water and food supplies, further adding to medical costs and land costs. Acid rain will destroy vegetation, including the vegetation we rely on for food. Rising temperatures from greenhouse gases will cause global climate changes which will impact us FAR more than paying extra for cleaner energy. Plus, if alternative energy sources are now more economical due to higher energy costs, they will be mass produced more, and become cheaper and more widespread. Obviously we'll never power the entire country on wind or solar power, but cutting our fossil fuel use by even 1/4 will have a dramatic impact on our economy, our health, and the environment.
     
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    Areas like that with consistent sunshine would benefit greatly from residential solar panel installations. Get some. They may not pay for your entire electric bill, but they will cut it down by quite a bit, and depending on your electricity consumption, and the size of the solar setup you get, you may end up making a net profit for yourself, even if it's small.
     
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    You do realize we are talking about electicity right? And that oil is not electricity right?

    Gas prices now have been this high for way longer than they were under Bush. How long was gas above $3.50/gallon under Bush compared to Obama?
     
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    Gas prices rose far more under Bush than they did under Obama. When Bush was elected, and I was a senior in high school, gas prices were below $1.50.

    Gas price averages 1978 to 2000

    During Bush's tenure, we saw the highest price of gas I've ever seen, which was around $4.39 a gallon, and that was just in my area where gas prices don't reach as high as they do in other parts of the country.
     
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    Gas prices were around $1.80 when Obama took office. They have been above 3-3.50 for allt his time.
    They might have been higher at one point during Bush's tenure, but never stayed that high.

    Plus they rose because of Katrina, 9/11 and the other hurricanes that came through.
     
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    Holy hell. Any drama here? lmao
     
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    Since you obviously have amnesia, like most libs, gas was $1.68 a gallon when Bush left office.
     
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    Absurd.

    An 800% increase in the price of electricity is NOT even remotely the right thing for the country, particularly those who don't have the luxury to pay significantly more for EVERYTHING they purchase, including basic necessities.

    If you like the rate of personal bankruptcies, home foreclosures and business failures in this country today, you'll absolutely love the staggering rates that will follow an 800% hike in electricity prices.
     
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    So tell me how you feel about the exportation of jobs to slave labor countries subsequentely eroding the american median wage by replacing all the jobs with low tech and service jobs.... Nothing there huh?... mouthbreather indeed
     
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    Might I ask what fuel you use to heat your home? Also, I am assuming you use wall units in the summer for A/C?

    Feel free to send the electric company an extra $70/MO, but don't force me too.

    1/4 of the population? Get real. The payback right now is NOT worth the investment in my opinion.
     
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    This is just a brain-dead denial of facts. Gas prices spiked under Bush, BUT WENT DOWN at the point of his leaving office. They were around $1.70/gallon.

    They've more than doubled under Obama, and that's where they remain.
     
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    With such extreme temperatures, hot or cold, energy use will be great, there is no argument here. The issue is the EPA and coal fire plants. You were mixing by reply to another on gasoline. Conservation, in the colder climates, people will set the thermostate to a lower level, I presume that to save energy you and your neighbors set the thermostate to higher temperatures.

    Cooling a home is not restricted to cooling units only. You have already mentioned some in your post.

    FYI, your energy needs drives up the cost for all of us, it is expensive to transport electrical energy even over power lines.
     
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    And how much did Bush have to with that directly?... <<<edit>>>insult you cant see hedgefunds and speculators liquidating and consolidating during the crash thus ending the impact of fake scarcity and price manipulation.

    What you suggest is that the Bush administration had a socialist hold on a nationalized oil industry because thats the ONLY way he could dictate oil prices or have that kind of influence on the oil/gas price. What you suggest is partisan bullshiat
     

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