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Your Electric Bills To Get Sharply Higher…

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Taxcutter, May 23, 2012.

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  1. webrockk

    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The summer driving season begins this weekend....traditionally, gas prices spike because of demand and "summer blends"...
    I'm interested to see what happens.
     
    webrockk, May 25, 2012
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  2. mikezila

    mikezila New Member

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    ok, i get it...it's sort of a reverse heat pump...there was a trick i picked up on "This Old House" some years back. what they did was ambient heat in the house to pre-heat water going into the tank. they just used 10ft of 10inch PVC pipe to feed into the water heater so they were heating 70 degree water instead of 50 degree water.

    FYI-keep your fridge and freezer full and it will run less...and save you a ton of money.
     
    mikezila, May 25, 2012
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  3. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL! Sure, give us your economic analysis on that one, Mike. Because Obama should take our economy and tank it in the worst recession in 80 years like Bush left us? That might get it back down to $2/gal. Great plan.

    I enjoy it a lot more than the $4 I paid when Bush was in office and the $5 conservatives were claiming it would soon be this year.
     
    Iriemon, May 25, 2012
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  4. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Hey bud, thanks again, I will need to replace mine in about 2.5 yrs.
     
    mdrobster, May 25, 2012
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  5. Taxcutter

    Taxcutter New Member

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    You can save some money by insulating if your home hasn't been renovated in the last thirty years, but not to the degree your electric bills will go up due to Obama and the EPA.
     
    Taxcutter, May 25, 2012
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  6. Taxcutter

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    Tankless water heaters are good but you cannot use them with hard water. They are dependent on a water flow sensing valve and it readily plates out calcium. Once plated, it never will go to high fire.
     
    Taxcutter, May 25, 2012
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  7. Marine1

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    Marine1, May 25, 2012
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  8. mikezila

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    mikezila, May 25, 2012
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  9. mikezila

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    you have hard water and don't have a water softener? ewwwwwwwwwwwwe! :puke:
     
    mikezila, May 25, 2012
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  10. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    When Bush left office, it was $1.80 per gallon. now its nearly double. Thanks Obama!
     
    Consmike, May 25, 2012
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  11. Silhouette

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    Steam turbines are steam turbines whether you run them with radioactive steam [nuclear power...soon to be defunct], coal-fired steam, natural gas-fired steam or solar fired steam. Wait? Solar-fired steam? What the heck is that?

    [​IMG]

    Notice the molten salt tanks in the diagram. They hold immense heat storage at night and can run the turbines for up to 8 hours at night after sunny days. Imagine how cheap your energy bill would be if the same companies burning coal switched over to solar steam on sunny days. Given you have about 300 sunny days a year...imagine the savings? Wow!

    You won't hear a lot about solar thermal steam as it quietly replaces nuclear, gas and augments coal instead. That's because BigDirty power monopolies are scared crapless of steam generated for free by mirrors concentrating sun's rays...think of a magnifying glass on an ant hill. Same principle.
     
    Silhouette, May 25, 2012
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  12. mikezila

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    didn't the Kursk use molten sodium?
     
    mikezila, May 25, 2012
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  13. Irishman

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    Eh, only if you have a small household. The point of the tankless water heaters is it only runs when you are calling for hot water. If you have 20 people in the house and someone is constantly showering, running the water etc... the unit will always be running, I don't think the savings will we worth the investment.
     
    Irishman, May 25, 2012
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  14. mdrobster

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    My standard hot water heater had the calcium build up in the regulator and you are correct, the pilot light went out and had to replace the regulator.
     
    mdrobster, May 25, 2012
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not sure a hybrid hot water heater would save you money over a gas hot water heater. I hear gas is still pretty cheap to burn. I don't have gas.
     
    Marine1, May 25, 2012
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    I have gas, I will probably go with an energy saver too.
     
    mdrobster, May 25, 2012
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  17. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    Don't we all...

    Sorry, I couldn't resist for a Friday on a holiday weekend.
     
    Consmike, May 25, 2012
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  18. mikezila

    mikezila New Member

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    there is a lot of cole slaw floating around other threads.
     
    mikezila, May 25, 2012
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    LOL, no problem, I am a prime candidate for Gas-X or Beano :)
     
    mdrobster, May 25, 2012
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    Germany already found out the hard way what happens when you make knee jerk decisions on energy, here is the google translated version


    http://translate.google.com/transla...preisluege-seite-all/6663536-all.html&act=url


     
    jackdog, May 25, 2012
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  21. Consmike

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    Never tried Beano, does it work?
     
    Consmike, May 25, 2012
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  22. fiddlerdave

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    OK, so now Germany can go back to its coal mines and build lots of coal-fired power plants!

    Oh, wait! Germany is PHASING OUT SUBSIDIES for its coal mining since 2007, greatly increasing coal costs which is one of the major factors leading to current higher electricity costs!

    How odd that our fossil-fuel-loving Right Wing friends didn't notice or comment on the fossil-fuel subsidies that have been going on for decades! :roll:

    http://www.dw.de/dw/article/0,,2331545,00.html

     
    fiddlerdave, May 25, 2012
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  23. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We really need to find a cheap way of cleaning up coal. We are the Saudi Arabia of coal in the world.
     
    Marine1, May 25, 2012
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  24. mikezila

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    there is. by converting it to liquid or gas. it transports easier that way too.

    ok, it might not be "cheap", but it's the least expensive.
     
    mikezila, May 25, 2012
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  25. Ivan88

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    [​IMG]

    The price of gasoline went up dramatically due to US sabotage of America's interests in the Middle East, and insider collusion.

    Then when oil prices were going down, they decided to attack Iraq and destroy the Iraq oil supply, thus raising prices.

    When Bush I first attacked Iraq, he bombed most of Iraq's production and distribution facilities causing immense pollution to land, sea and air.

    When the men who stop burning wells went into Iraq, the first thing they had to do was remove all the unexploded US cluster bombs and other US Air force ordinance used to blow the wells.

    The same airforce that refused to assist the USS Liberty when the Israelis and President Johnson were trying to sink it, and the same airforce that sat around eating donuts while "hijacked" airliners flew around for an hour and a half. But they are real good at bombing unarmed civilians.

    More recently, the insiders jacked up the price of oil and then told everyone about "Peak Oil" and the coming Sunni/Shia civil war that would greatly reduce oil supplies.

    And now we have a President working to jack up the price of fuel 8 times.

    All because the US people are such suckers for official lies and constant wars of aggression to enrich the elites that manipulate them so effectively.

    Most of them still have a fondness for this guy from the Ministry of Truth: [​IMG]
     
    Ivan88, May 25, 2012
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