Christianity Has Lost Its Fundamental Principle!!!

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  1. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Categorically - Yes!

    Is it prevalent amongst followers in my perception - Categorically No! or not as prevalent as it should be in its entirety!
     
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    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    You misunderstand what I'm saying. The reason I'm so involved in politics is because of GOD's love for us. Where did GOD ever say that he wouldn't give man the right to teach others the correct way to live life on earth? I'm simply discoursing with libs so as to get them to see their nefarious ways of thinking. Ever hear of the term 'tough love?" You see, liberals in particular have been sliding down this disastrous road toward armaggedden for a long time now, and I'm simply showing and exposing them for the anti Christian--anti American values that they currently hold.
     
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    Who are you trying to fool. You arent trying to help anyone. You are just angry and vent that anger by demonizing a group in society - the total opposite of what Jesus said to do.
     
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    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    I don't demonize groups of people who demonize Christians and America. I'm merely getting them to see the light and to proselyte themselves over to join the GOD Squad with me and my friends.
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Guilt is basically self recognition of something we are culpable of(Survivors guilt is probably in a different context). A response to guilt is to rectify the problem created, which comes from a profound sense of love.

    I think many of us focus on protecting God's values rather than just living by them. This is where we fall into the deep trap of taking over God's job, which is to judge. I believe in upholding all of God's commandments, which are rolled up in this one word - dare I say it again...LOVE! Liberty is what God gave us as human beings. People from all walks of life, oppose being condemned, but respond to love deep down! Liberalism allows people to find him genuinely and Christians are supposed to be the light to shine the way...not their judges. I believe it is inherent upon us to allow people to be free, and to trust that God's love through Christians will do the rest. While Christians are judging and trying to do his work, they are failing in the simple principles of his word and therfore becoming more and more misunderstood. That's my take again anyway.
     
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    Yes you do and you demonize people who dont even do that!

    You are really that deluded as to think that? Please tell me you are joking.
     
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    Excellent point.

    Did Jesus not express anger toward money changers who sold doves for sacrifice in the temple?

    Do you not love your child when the child is taken to task for his/her misdeeds? Why do you suppose the ancient minds attributed human characteristic to God in the form of a father? Does a father not correct his children?

    People play the love card against Christians as often as the race card is played against opposition in political circles.
     
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    I suggest you read the post under this one of yours to see JoanofArc reminding us that its the father of the household that is assigned the role to discipline his children. He does discipline them out of 'love' for his children in order that they grow up to be productive members of society. So take what I'm saying of my love for liberals via my teaching or disciplining them into making wise decisions as being my GOD given trait or talent in doing something worthwhile for the benefit of all mankind, including you.
     
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    Beautiful!!!

    :)
     
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    I wonder where Jesus thought Mary got the turtledoves she used as a sacrifice when he was eight days old?
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're ideal of love does not derive from love, but from control. Control is a mechanism of satan!!! It is people like you who cause the church to lose credibility, and leaders are reponsible because you are not being weeded out. You'd have to question your real love of God Libhater. This is such a delusional statement just here and one that doesn't represent Christianity. You are not one of God's MINI Gods! The battle you fight, is supposed to be in the spiritual realm, not the physical. You're still living under old testament law, where battles between good and evil were fought physically.
     
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    The parable of the wheat and the tare shows that false Christians will be scattered among true Christians. That is why in the parable when the servants wanted to pull out the tares the master said, no, because by pulling up the tares you are going to uproot some of the wheat with it. And the parable when on when the master said, leave it all alone until the time of the harvest where the servants will separate the wheat from the tare, and burn the tares but gather the wheat into his barn.
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When is harvest time? For me, this is a continuous cycle. If we are focusing on analogies, then a garden and or crops require endless weeding, and if the farmer is lazy or under equiped, much of the good crop will die. Paul was a tare, but was able to be miraculously transformed into lovely golden grain of wheat. There is still hope for all man and don't believe the conclusion is that once you are a tare you are always a tare. The church simply needs to live and teach the real meaning of love! Love is hope, compassion, generosity, understanding..........................
     
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    Harvest time is when Jesus returns.
     
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    So are you saying that it is a bad thing for a father to control their unruly children? I look upon you libs as being unruly children, and thus the need for someone like myself to straighten you out. I only use control according to GOD's message and under his auspicies. Rush always says he comes to us with talent on loan from GOD. So my fine work here is also on loan from GOD HIMSELF.
     
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    how do you know god is a "HE", if we were ALL created in god's image... maybe God is a she
     
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    When God said let us make man in our image and likeness He was not referring to gender…….Eve was just as much in God’s image as Adam was. God refer to Himself as He because He is the source of all things, but God is neither male nor female. The Bible says God is Spirit.
     
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    Control is a mechanism of satan!! A good father will live by example and guide his children until they are at an age to make their own decisions. You do confuse discipline with control I see. "But control, although it can look like discipline, is the tool of the narcissist or psychopath who wants to be the puppetmaster in his little (or big) universe. He wants to control even the minutest actions of those around him, and he keeps those around him infantilized and dependent". The funny thing Libhater is years ago, I was like you but not as extreme lol. I was so deluded to the realities of life in general, because of this sad state of mind. People like you do more damage to Christianity than good. Stop thinking you are God and begin to live by the word of your testimony!
     
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    you really ought to read the bible. let me suggest proverbs first.
     
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    This is the broad interpretation but still has anomalies hanging from it, as I state in previous posts above.
     
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    well which bible are you using dude?
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why? What is your point?
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The one that relies on interpretation...Does your bible come with interpretation??????
     
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    Its not an interpretation, it is what Jesus said.

    Matthew 13:38-39 (ASV)
    38 and the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one;
    39 and the enemy that sowed them is the devil: and the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are angels.
     
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    The discussion is more about the entity of Christianity and the message of love internally, which should be permeating into the world. This scripture is a reference to Christians and those that essentially oppose Christianity and its foundation, which is obviously believing in Jesus? lol......What are you trying to say??
     

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