Marine faces 15 years behind bars for unknowingly violating gun law

Where does it say you can?

 

If this man was arrested, then it is public domain, with a public access NYC criminal incident #.

 

I would too, but that is because I am aware of the situation and possible consequences. It isn't completely unreasonable for a person to be under the impression that their permit from one state is valid in another. When driving out of state, do you call ahead to make sure that your driver's license is valid there? No, everyone just assumes that it is, and driving isn't even a constitutionally protected right.

 

Right now all they need do is get a job with the military or the police department. Then you'll be happily licking their boots because they are "authorized" to carry a weapon. Apparently, having a government issued badge and clown costume makes one capable, or something.

 

This is just sickening! The guy made a mistake and this is what they do to him..... You'd think they'd want to keep that cell available for a real criminal, since the prisons are over-crowded as it is.......

I hate the way our servicemen are treated.

A couple yrs ago there was the case of the 3 Navy SEALS who were arrested and faced court-martial after they captured an Iraqui terrorist and gave him a fat lip.......

I still get pist when I think of that - and now this.......

 

This thread is a perfect example of why I can't keep posting here. Reading the retarded leftist drivel is giving me hypertension. These people have a mental disorder.

 

He was charged with unauthorized carry and in a bar to boot. Poor Plaxaco Burrhead STILL got off easy.

 

Burrhead worked in NY.....he KNEW the law.

 

Perhaps people could think a little bit instead of a knee jerk YES when some pandering "law and order" politician is calling for "mandatory minimum sentences", and taking away ALL discretionary power from judges!

It isn't ALWAYS going to be somebody you HATE who runs afoul of some law or another!

 

He doesn't have a license to carry in New York. I understand that the information he read online was wrong, but he should have double checked.

Ignorance is not an excuse for breaking the law. Do you let someone go after they've been caught speeding because they didn't know the speed limit? Do you let someone get away with drink driving because they didn't know they were over the limit?

The law is harsh - three years in prison is a little excessive, but like I said, it is your responsibility to know the laws of each State before you travel there.

 

Hey, Dude - just keep in mind that the loony tunes can't help themselves . Like you said, they have a mental disorder.... a serious psychosis and don't let it get to you........

 

Yeah, I made a mistake too. I was speeding but I got out of a fine because I didn't know what the speed limit was.

You are saying that ignorance is a justification for breaking the law.

 

Oh gawd .... do we always have to go thru these bizarre, off the wall, irrational comparisons?

Ok, Mak - you're screaming down the freeway, totally ignoring the SPEED LIMIT SIGNS all along the stretch of road, in PLAIN SIGHT and you wonder why you got pulled over? You weren't ignorant b/c ignorance means lacking knowledge or awareness of something in particular, so you were reckless and irresponsible to ignore the signs telling you what the speed limit was.......

Now, that's not exactly the case w/this Marine, is it?

He walked up to the security officer and asked where he should check his gun, unaware that in DC, the firearms law was different....

He wasn't a danger or menace to anyone, like someone speeding down the freeway........

Yeah, hindsight is 20/20 - he should have tho't of it and checked the laws b/f he went to DC, but he didn't think of it - so this Marine, who made a mistake that didn't hurt anyone or wasn't even a potential danger to anyone, like a speeder, should go to prison?

ARE YOU KIDDING ME???

 

Don't get me wrong, I do believe it was a genuine mistake. But you still can't have people pleading ignorance as a justification for rule breaking. It doesn't matter WHAT the rule is, ignorance is not an excuse.

Also, there was no way to determine whether he was a danger or not. You cannot assume someone poses no threat.

 

Riiiiight! He was a big threat to the security officer and everyone else when he let the security officer know he had a gun on him and asked him where he should check it..... then stood there and waited for an answer.......

And you CAN plead ignorance when you weren't aware of a different law in the city you went to.... if you don't know something, you don't know and that lack of knowledge doesn't make you a criminal!

I hate (*)(*)(*)(*) like this.....

 

So if I get drunk in another State and am over the limit (but under the limit in my home State) I can say that I didn't know what the limit was to get out of a fine?

Can I travel to another country, break the law and then claim I didn't know what the law was?

 

So now you want to compare being sloppy drunk (and probably driving .... isn't there a law in all of Aussie about drunken driving?). Drunkenness is an entirely different matter from a Marine who wanted to CHECK IN his weapon to the security officer....... and it would also depend upon what you were up to during your drunken stupor - like disturbing the peace, attacking people, running around in public stark naked... is that what you mean about being ignorant of laws?

You traveling to another country and breaking their laws is not the same as a Marine who was in his own country and went to the capitol for a visit, not realizing the gun law was different ...... a man who lived his life w/o getting into any trouble w/the law, which gave him a clean record to enlist in the Marine Corps to protect his country that did this to him......

 

Okay, so I am drunk and pull up next to a cop car and ask them to breath test me because I am not sure I am drunk or not.

You are happy to dismiss one persons ignorance but not anothers.

 

Wait... what places have gun checks? I've never even heard of that. I can understand why some people would be concerned if some random d00d asks where he can put his gun, though the punishment doesn't fit .

 

Oh my gawd ..... LOL! This is to much and I'm running out of steam ... but I'll give it my best shot here.

First you say "So I am drunk" - then you end it by saying "I'm not sure I am drunk or not"...... now just which way is it? Lol...... look, Mak, if a person is drunk - they KNOW it! There's no 'ifs, ands or buts about it. You know. And if anyone DROVE up to a squad car and asked the cop to give them a breathalyzer to decide if they were drunk or not ..... then that person IS drunk! Lolol.......

I can easily understand if a person - and I don't care what their politics are, or their race, religion, creed, sexuality or whatever is - if there's something they're not aware of - that is NOT A CRIME!! And they shouldn't be punished b/c they weren't aware of it.

To me, it's so dam SIMPLE! You simply give the person who is obviously NOT a threat, the info they need and let it go!

Now I'm going to bed and leave you to think up more crazy comparisons... lol.

 

Well the criminals will be the only ones with guns. Well done, Cali, your destructive lunacy is almost complete.

HB, get the hell outta that place !!! Take your family and run for your life.

​

 

As a former Armored Truck driver, Top Gun shooting Champion and shoot out survivor, I think I'll stay and take my chances.

 

So he was unaware that gun laws differ between states? Are you really trying to spin this?

I live in Australia and I know the gun laws in DC are strict. Sounds like this guy has a screw loose to me. And gun checks, do you really have gun check ins at buildings?

 

I was wrong - from the article:

Jerome has a valid concealed carry permit in Indiana and visited New York believing that it was legal to bring his firearm. He was traveling with $15,000 worth of jewelry that he planned to sell.

The online gun-law information Jerome read was inaccurate,


Did ya read the last sentence? So he HAD checked online about it and the info was inaccurate - IOW's ....WRONG........

So, how are you going to spin this b/c you think a law-abiding citizen should be put in prison, despite the fact that he had checked on the NY gun laws and he tried to check in his weapon when he got there?

 

I wonder if I can take a bazooka into NY and claim some RW idiot on PF told me the 2nd amendment said it was ok.