Palestinian Statehood officially acknowledged.

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    If you can, it will be evidence of 'Christianonazism"......Lol.
     
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    His deliberate photochop is racist by implication.
     
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    Are muslims a different race? Seems to me that the racist card is drawn everytime someone calles a muslim on something. And yet how often I have hears nazis moan about the use of the term anti-semitism, claiming that it does not exist ?
     
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    Oddly enough Hitler manages to attract followers of different ideologies based on the premise that your enemy must be my friend. It leads to very odd bedfellows. So there is no doubt in my mind that you will find anti-semitics white men as well as muslims. I have even heard of the odd black nazi. Funny stuff.
     
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    Along with Israel, you mean?
     
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    Thank you for your contribution.
     
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    Are Jews a race ? Guess you havent notice Jews playing that raist card , have ?

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    Is that the reason why Zionists Jews flirted with Mussolini's facists as well as the Nazis ,

    "Zionist Federation of Germany sent a memorandum of support to the Nazi Party on 21.06.1933. In it the Federation noted:

    "...A rebirth of national life such as is occurring in German life ... must also take place in the Jewish national group.

    "On the foundation of the new [Nazi] state which has established the principle of race, we wish so to fit our community into the total structure, so that for us, too, in the sphere assigned to us, fruitful activity for the Fatherland is possible...." Far from repudiating this policy, the World Zionist Organization Congress in 1933 defeated a resolution calling for action against Hitler by a vote of 240 to 43.

    Mussolini set up squadrons of the Revisionist Zionist youth movement, Betar, in black shirts in emulation of his own Fascist bands.

    When Menachem Begin became chief of Betar, he preferred the brown shirts of the Hitler gangs, a uniform Begin and Betar members wore to all meetings and rallies - at which they greeted each other, opened and closed meetings with the fascist salute.

    Consequently, the Zionists brought Baron Von Mildenstein of the S.S. Security Service to Palestine for a six-month visit in support of Zionism.
    This visit led to a twelve-part report by Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's Minister of Propaganda, in Der Angriff (The Assault) in 1934 praising Zionism. Goebbels ordered a medallion struck with the Swastika on one side, and on the other, the Zionist Star of David. In May 1935, Reinhardt Heydrich, the chief of the S.S. Security Service, wrote an article in which he separated Jews into "two categories." The Jews he favored were the Zionists: "Our good wishes together with our official good will go with them." In 1937, the Labor "socialist" Zionist militia, the Haganah (founded by Jabotinsky) sent an agent (Feivel Polkes) to Berlin offering to spy for the S.S. Security Service in exchange for the release of Jewish wealth for Zionist colonization. Adolf Eichmann was invited to Palestine as the guest of the Haganah.


    Polkes informed Eichmann:

    "Jewish nationalist circles were very pleased with the radical German policy, since the strength of the Jewish population in Palestine would be so far increased thereby that in the foreseeable future the Jews could reckon upon numerical superiority over the Arabs."

    The list of acts of Zionist collaboration with the Nazis goes on and on.

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    Let's not again deliberately ignore the fact of the numbers of half-quarter- Jews who served in Hitler's army. The same half-quarter Jews who'd today be eligible to migrate to Israel and enjoy better citizenship rights than resident Muslim/Christian or Druze Arabs .

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    Liebe-vitch - Go learn.
     
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    It was a deliberate photochop, the purpose of which was to support a bogus and, by implication, racist claim.
     
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    Again in English please. Please also explain why jews are a different race. I am only seeing jew haters refer to racism. It is ironic stuff.

    I know much about the so-called Mischlinge who did not even consider themselves jews initially and became icnreasingly so classified by the nazis as the war went on. I assume that this is what you mean? Or do you mean those who were forced to negotiate with murderous regimes to save some of their poeple? Is that what you call friendship or are you referring to how racists and anti-semites band together with radical muslims because of their common hatred? Or are you talking about 1933 when some jews were hoping for a homeland and had no idea what was in store of them but apparently had the right instincts? Can you provide any sources at all on anything?

    Please explain the racism.
     
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    Moon, what are the borders of the State of Palestine?
     
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    Currently, they are delineated by the so-called ' Green Line ' -known as the 1967 Borders . This is the armistice line where Zionist military forces halted their further advances into Palestine in 1967.
    The United Nations accepted these borders on November 29th, 2012 when they voted to recognise Palestinian non-member Statehood. The vote was an overwhelming 138-9 in favour.

    I'm sorry to be able to provide you with the definitive answer that you previously believed did not exist.

    Old Chinese proverb say- ' Those that set traps need good memories '
     
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    Let's ask Liebe to provide the post to which the above response applied :mrgreen:

    Liebe might also like to apologise for inserting the term ' jews ' over the original term ' Khazars '- probably an oversight and totally unconnected with any attempt at false allegations of antisemitism designed to silence criticism of Zionism.
     
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    Looking for context now as an excuse for your statement huh?

    The link as well as your words are there for Skinny to enjoy. We know that nazis obsess about the roots of Jews and thrill in the whole Khazarian genetic testing thing, as if it intereted anyone but them.

    I suppose you used the term Khazars to refer to someone other than the Jews in Israel...! :yawn:
     
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    Not sure what you mean by this, I simply wanted to know whether the borders were the ones outlined by the UN in the 1940s or if they include rightfully Palestinian territory. So essentially, the UN recognises the Green Line as the official border between Israel and Palestine, and doesn't recognise any Israeli expansion, arrests, infrastructural etc. beyond that line as being legitimate?
     
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    That's correct, yes. Israel is viewed as a force of Occupation beyond the Green Line. Even the so-called ' Israeli law ' in Jerusalem has been declared void. Israel does not permit United Nations peacekeepers because those peacekeepers are required to view the Israeli presence as illegal. How do they get away with it ? Zionist lobbyists in Washington own the system and the US of AIPAC has a UN veto. There is absolutely nothing more important to the fabric of Zionist criminality than that veto.
     
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    Mostly true, and from the other side, the refussal of the Arabs to acknoledge the partataion plan of the 40's was the start of all this, the occupation was result of the Arab contious war against Israe, its not like the UN suggested these borders and Israel conquered the Palestinians, the first to attack were the Arabs that invaded Israel, then after the cease fire Plaestinians continued to shoot at Israelis and carry terror attacks, then, about 20 years later and after Jordan took over Jerusalem (that was supoposed to be under UN rule)- Israel took over the WB/Green line.
    Even now, Hamas refuses to acknowledge Israel yet demands a withdarwal, I dont think we should unless they make some heart breaking "we're sorry" letter, perfumed even.
     
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    Mostly true, and from the other side, the refussal of the Arabs to acknoledge the partataion plan of the 40's was the start of all this, the occupation was result of the Arab contious war against Israe, its not like the UN suggested these borders and Israel conquered the Palestinians, the first to attack were the Arabs that invaded Israel, then after the cease fire Plaestinians continued to shoot at Israelis and carry terror attacks, then, about 20 years later and after Jordan took over Jerusalem (that was supoposed to be under UN rule)- Israel took over the WB/Green line.
    Even now, Hamas refuses to acknowledge Israel yet demands a withdarwal, I dont think we should unless they make some heart breaking "we're sorry" letter, perfumed even.
     
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    Ah, so they weren't keen on having half of their territory handed over to a minority group within their population by the victors of a world war in which they didn't even participate. How bloody obstructive of them.
     
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    That isn't true. Israel to be was murdering and expelling Palestinians before she even declared herself a state in order to gain more territory and to change the demographics.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYvimRnlTqE

    The Arab armies were weak and small and mainly tried to stop Israel taking over what was to have been the Palestinian territory, apart of course from Jordan, who had the best military and on agreements with the leaders of Israel and racist Britain, who believed they were too 'backward' for a state took that part of Palestine which came to be known as the West Bank.
     
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    Exactly my point,

    You support the UN proposal yet you dont, we get it.
     
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    Upon which proposal is your strawman built ?
     
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    No, what you say isnt true,

    Arabs were murdering Jews in the 20's to great extent, then 30's then 40's, what you posted happened much much later just before the war when Jews decided to finally strike back, here you go, 1929 massacre:
    [video=youtube;E3tMvGgCEx0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3tMvGgCEx0[/video]

    No one had a strong armiy at the time, Jews hardly had weapons, they had to buy from europe, the Arabs greatly outnumbered the Jews, 2 Palestinian "war lords" rivaled who will be the first to destroy the Jews. The Arab armies invaded parts that had nothing to do with Palestinians, Egypt from the south fought Jewish villages in areas that had nothing to do with the Palestinian area - I remind you that they never accepted Israel terretory - at all, so to say they only invaded the un-recognized parts is ilogical,

    Syria invaded from the North, again, had nothing to do with Palestinaian area. Jordan took over Jerusalem, the King plans for greater Jordan are a known fact, he offered the Jews to live in his kingdom.
     
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    Upon the stupidity and arrogance of the Arabs at the time, same thing that brought us to the West bank and Gaza.
     
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