Ukraine is the only country in the world where...

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    where was Poland in 1938 when Hitler invaded the Czechs?

    where was Poland when Hitler enacted the Nuremberg Laws?
     
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    What did Jews do when Hitler's anti-Jewish Nazis come to power?

    Some of them actually paid off Nazi Germany, in the Haavara Agreement, to pay Nazi Germany to send 60,000 Jews, and their belongings to Palestine to help create future Israel.
     
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    no, no, no.. You are either a master troll or 100% retarded. Your posts consists of such pure stupidity that I can't continue. I can't do this. Good night.
     
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    Well, Poland didn't hand Hitler the Sudetenland like Britain, France, Fascist Italy, and Nazi Germany agreed upon in Munich Agreement.
     
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    Poland also did not come to the aid of Czechoslovakia.

    they stood by and watched.

    what happened when Hitler declared war on Poland? Britian declared war on Germany.
     
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    Britain in September of 1939 didn't invade Nazi Germany, nor come to Poland to help.

    But, Polish pilots in the Battle of Britain were there to help save Britain.

    How is that trolling, or being a retard?
     
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    Some help, Britain didn't get involved until Nazis headed West towards Britain into France.

    How come?

    If anything Britain, kind of punked Poland.

    They didn't do what they said they were going to do, which is support Poland if it was invaded.

    Heck, Britain not only didn't declare war on Soviets who also invaded Poland, they supported the Soviet take over of Poland, in Yalta Conference, and Potsdam Conference.
     
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    we started a boycott of Germany and urged the world to join us.
     
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    In retrospective, Poland should have joined either Nazis, or Soviets in an alliance, rather than remaining neutral to both, while "expecting" Britain to come to rescue, which never truly happened.

    Slovakia joined the Nazis, and they're Catholic Slavs like Polish are, and they fared a lot better in WW2 than Poland, which THOUGHT Britain would come to the rescue.
     
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    That's true, but then there's still the Haavara Agreement where Jewish financiers paid off Nazi Germany.
     
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    Oh well, Poland did the morally right thing, of not giving into Nazis, or Soviets, but at it's own expense.
     
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    If you ask that question. Yes, I admit that (not Russia) but USSR commited crimes.
    "Germans killed and raped russians.. Russians did the same to germans"- while first one is well documented and proved by photographs and cinema chronics, as well as many witnesses in Nürneberg process, the last one has no proof. The evidences of several tens of people does not mean mass scale. That is just the consequences of war. The same things happened on American and British side when they came to Germany from the west.
     
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    Britain only declared war on Germany, but in reality did not send any military troops to Poland although had an agreement with Poland.
     
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    Free speech can be a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*), can't it?
     
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    I strongly recommend you swallow your own medicine. You were previously given credible evidence which disproves your assertions. The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was an alliance between your beloved Mother Russia (i.e. Soviet Union) and Nazi Germany. As inconvenient as that is for you that is the truth. But I suspect, your issues go beyond knowledge and are more attributable to dishonesty.

    Once again for your edification:

    In addition to stipulations of non-aggression, the treaty included a secret protocol that divided territories of Romania, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and Finland into German and Soviet "spheres of influence", anticipating potential "territorial and political rearrangements" of these countries. Thereafter, Germany invaded Poland on 1 September 1939. After the Soviet–Japanese ceasefire agreement took effect on 16 September, Stalin ordered his own invasion of Poland on 17 September.[3] Part of southeastern (Karelia) and Salla region in Finland were annexed by the Soviet Union after the Winter War. This was followed by Soviet annexations of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and parts of Romania (Bessarabia, Northern Bukovina, and the Hertza region). Concern about ethnic Ukrainians and Belarusians had been proffered as justification for the Soviet invasion of Poland. Stalin's invasion of Bukovina in 1940 violated the pact, as it went beyond the Soviet sphere of influence agreed with the Axis.[4]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact

    Huh? Traitors to who?

    The West doesn't need to enslave and control its press. You do. The West doesn't need to invent fictions do justify itself. You do. The West doesn't ignore inconvenient facts. You do. The West doesn't need to scapegoat. You do. The West doesn't ignore inconvenient facts. You do. It's in your nature. That's why you keep repeating your mistakes. That's why you are poor poverty stricken corrupt country. The West has a very long history of freedom of speech and open and honest debate. You don't. The West learns from its mistakes. You don't.
     
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    How pathetic! :grin: Be careful not to jump out of your pants trying to glorify West :grin:
     
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    You know,I have/had an uncle that fled the Ukraine during Nazi Blitzkrieg.
    I know what pierogies are.
    He came here and started a farm from scratch.
    He died from spreading chemical fertilizer by hand.
    Ukrainians are Ukrainians.Russians are Russians.
     
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    LOL...well the truth is the truth. If that makes you uncomfortable, that really isn't my problem. Perhaps you should try being honest sometime. :)
     
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    I feel myself perfectly comfortable. As for truth, everyone has his own truth.
     
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    Do you now? I think your words betray you. As for the truth, there is only one truth. Things are either true or they are false. And in this case, it is very true that your beloved Mother Russia (i.e. Soviet Union) was a Nazi ally.
     
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    One has to distinguish between the cultures, ideologies of the time, etc., when one talks of rape. ..or any other crime for that matter. I am sure the Americans of that era would never have raped. Their respect towards women amazed even the British. Americans were well known for their Puritanism up until the rebellious 1960's.

    As for the British, they had an indifference towards human life, and did commit crimes, but their crimes were more akin to racism, so I really can't see them as committing rape. As for the Germans, they didn't rape or they would have been severely punished by the officers....not because of humanity, but rather because of their moral and racist beliefs. As for the Italians, I have never heard of them raping or committing any other atrocities in Greece.

    In contrast I did read a true story on the Russian revolution and the red army did rape some Russian women who were going to the countryside in search of food. I don't think the white Russians would have done so since it would have been a rebellion against their values and therefore they would have sided with the Red army. Of course there are always exceptions.

    I did come across something interesting though, which no one seems to take into account. Most of the Soviets who entered Berlin were not Russians but Lithuanians. Also didn't Poroshenko say that it was the Ukrainians who were the first ones to enter... so how can the Russians be blamed for any rape that occurred?

    Besides that most of the Russian soldiers were killed and according to the Germans, they were being supplimented by troops from more oriental parts of Russia. So to accuse the Russians for committing crimes rather than the Ukrainians. Lithuanians and others seems a little prejudicial and unfair to me. But then again propaganda is not meant to be fair.
     
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    Soviet soldiers committed mass-rapes in Germany and Poland
     
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    Russians better have your chlorine ready. You will be needing cleaning Europe of dirt once again...
     
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    What words? It is you who jump here pathetically glorifying West and not me :grin: No, things can be true or false depending on the way you look at them. And no, you are wrong. Soviet Union was not a Nazi ally. Or if you state this, then you have to admit that US was also a Nazi ally, UK was a Nazi ally, and France was a Nazi ally.
     
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    planning a genocide?
     

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